Posted on: Monday, August 31st, 2009
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Player Feedback – SWTOR: Sith Warrior
Watch as Joe Embraces the Dark Side in the Upcoming MMO from Bioware! The Sith Warrior Class has been officially announced. The Warrior channels the destructive emotions of Fear, Anger, and Hatred to purge weakness from body and mind and become a being of pure, brutal efficiency.
Could there be any more appropriate character for Angry Joe?
Joe uses this opportunity to present the first Episode of Player Feedback, so make sure you leave a comment & Vote in the Poll – Results will be featured in the Next Episode!
Joe is trying to decide on a New, Fresh, Exciting format to present the latest in Gaming News. Until then however why not talk about the latest happenings now and use this opportunity to test out ideas together? We will do all of those things in Player Feedback.
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Leave your Feedback for one of them, or all of them if you so desire! The best, funniest, or most insightful comments will be featured in the next episode!
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
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227 thoughts on “Player Feedback – SWTOR: Sith Warrior”
DUDE joe have you heard of SWG star wars galaxys. its this game sony bought and has been skrewing over and not adveritzing for a few years. it REALLY sucks. they also bought a matrix game and skrewed it over and they shut it down a few days ago!
1.Definatley dual light sabers for me, no question there. I think I dual wielded just about every time I played through Knights of the Old Republic.
2.The art direction is a huge turn off for me. If anything keeps me from playing this game it will be that.
3.I think the light sabers look bad ass. I don’t know how cool they would look in a game with such cartoony graphics, but they do look cool in the concept art.
4.I’m not really sure what the other classes will be, but judgeing from the other mmo’s out there I think we’ll probably get the basic class roundup one would expect, warrior, priest, caster, stealth, ranged etc.
5.If anything gets me to play this game, it would be joining a guild with you and whooping some Jedi ass. Man I hate Jedi!
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As for my ideal character design, i’d love to see something similar to this knight’s armor only with a little more futurized look to fit into star wars universe.
but it just looks so awesome as it is.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff77/rafeall/black_knight-1.jpg
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
Single, I need a free hand to better perform a force choke.
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
In a word, interesting. there aren’t many gaming companies that take a leap of faith in originality and Bioware has heaps of it so i’m intrigued with this art style. I just hope they give us a good deal of face customization.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
pretty cool models, even cooler if we could make our own.
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
jedi is a given, as for the other two i’m thinking droid enginner with the ability to open security doors and create droid squads for your protection and a senator type of character who could be weaker compared to the other classes but due to his/her persuasion skills gains more in mission rewards and take priority in those flashpoints they talked about during the 20 minute demo.
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
As a Dark Side user i’m compelled to say although your offer is intriguing, i only follow those who prove stronger than me. Only then would I follow you as in true Sith fashion.
Also regarding the morality meter I’m thinking they’ll make it so it doesn’t weaken you if were for example a lightside sith (like i consider myself) as in Infamous which they made good powers more precise and evil powers more powerful.
1. I’d choose either a single or double-sided. Single would be for PvP ( 1 vs 1 )
but double sided for PvE or PvP where is 3+ opponents.
2. Characters look like Action Man, girls look somewhat from SpaceCowboy Online.
3. Sabers from the concept art isn’t the cup of tea for me.
4. I have no idea. Evil dentists sounds good tho!
5. No. I fight alone. Google for that “taxi driver name generator” they would suit best!
Hoping for them having the full year or LIFETIME price so never get bugged. Hell, games get expensive enough, but they’ll put a MONTHLY charge on TOP of that!
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
- Single, MAYBE dual.
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
- Gives off a “Kenner Action figure” look, to me.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
Awesome, the black and red saber would be what I want. Although I hope for customization, of both sabers, weapons, and characters. (MORE than the different heads, think Mass Effect scale of customization)
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
I have no idea.
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
In most games with a Karma meter, I’m usually neutral, because I tend to “Do the right thing”, but I kill the bad guys instead of jailing them. I think in this game, I will become a Sith, the sheer awesomeness, the ability to use Force Lighting, AND I will get to be in Angry Joe’s group! I would join his group as soon as I got the game and became Sith….
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
I’ll be going with the classic one handed green light saber myself.
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
It’s very fitting to have that almost cartoony/plastic look, it allows more people with lower end machines to be able to play.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
They look awesome and while I don’t think we’ll see them all on initial release, many of them should show up in upgrades and expansions.
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
I can see of course the Jedi Knight, than maybe a republic commando, and maybe for the the dark side like a spy class. In future updates and expansions I’m hoping they’ll bring out Sith Lords so that they be shown to the light side by the Jedi Masters.
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
I do have to apologize young sith warrior but I will have to respectfully decline for the dark side is not the true way of the force. May patience and truth find you and lead you back to the light before our sabers cross.
1 : Dobule sided! just how awesome could you get???
2: The art direction is ok i guess, they can’t really put better graphics because… well this is an online game, there is going to be thousands of persons out there playing… we can’t have everything that we want right?
3: Well its great, but i really don’t see the point of it, nost of the time your gonna be focused on the battle and not into the little cool details
4:Besides the Jedi class, i think that maybe there would be: Sand People, whatever race General Grievus was and i think that would be a nice idea to be like Jaba the Hut! you wouldnt be able to fight by yourself, but you are gonna be able to summon soldiers and droids to do stuff for you!
5: Ill be a bounty hunter, so if you can pay the price i can be on your side… the dark side i mean… not ´´the other side“… im not into that, really… not that theres anything wrong with that!
I had a very similar idea. Maybe the other classes are other races. Wookies and Yoda folks (I never delved that deeply to find out what species Yoda actually was.).
I’d like to see an HK Droid for a Tech/Combat mix (Sith), A Wookie filling that role on Republic, but I want to be able to be a Wookie Sith.
Hmm…every time I look at these gameplays trailers, I get more and more worried on how f**ked up can the combat system get, in a MMO, since the lag might kill your strategy completely.Another thing that I get worried every time I look, it’s the art style, I said previously that I will get used to it, but stylish cartoon style on Star Wars has been done more than once, and that it’s what it might really kill it, even mostly the lightsaber hilts, since some look oddly Lego or a fancy Dildo…Bio Ware has disapointed me a few times, but can’t really believe that this will be as good as the good old KotORs.
Now about the Monthly fee, I call it BULLSH*T, F***KING BULLSH*T, just liek you, Joe, I can’t understand what makes you get a game, that you’ll be paying over and over and over, specially THIS kind of game, which makes you addicted to it like Fallout 3, I know it would make more profit, but still…I call it bullsh*t…
Now thinking about the classes, a Wookie bounty hunter for the republic does sound possible to me, as well as a Sith Trooper for the Sith, and some variation of the Smuggler as well, maybe the HK droid or something, but I’m expecting them to get fancy on the game classes.
4. Imperial Agent now that i’ve seen the new timeline video.
http://www.swtor.com/info/holonet/timeline/empire-changes-strategy
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
How about a triple sided saber? >.>
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
Not really, but at the same time it dosent really bother me.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
*orgasum*
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
I dont really know. Probubly some kinda healer or some shit for each side, and idk… i just hope they don’t pull a ” you haft to pay extra for this one”
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
Yes, but only if i get dibs on the first pink lightsaber.
i think there is going to be a droid class on both sides, THAT WOULD KICK ASS
1. There will probetly be all 3 modes in the game single, double-sided sabor, and dual
2. The art design of the game looks ok. it won’t really desrtact me on me playing the game so yeah i don’t mind playing with the art style of the game.
3. Honestly, i think the art style of the light sabors look bad ass and i hope they will allow custonization or a wide verity of light sabors in the game.
4. There is a possibility that the “Mandalorian’s”, “imperal spys”, and “jedi nights” will be classes in the game. If you look at the timeline on the site, you will see that there is a history within these classes and describe if there enemies or friends to the republic.
5. I shall join you “my master” and follow your every command as we play the game. Will you tell us what guild you will create when the game comes out? Evil will always win, DOWN WITH THE REPUBLIC!!!
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
Dual, all day. Why have one when you can have two? I mean you’re a Jedi/Sith, I think you could handle an extra lightsaber, and two kill more people… twice as fast. And leave the 2-sided one to Darth Maul, that’s his thing, don’t over saturate it and ruin it.
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
Personally, I would like to see it be either a bit more gritty, or more cartoon-y. It seems to be in the middle and they need to make up their mind.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
I think fully customizable sabers would be awesome, but I think they will be too small in-game to really see the difference.
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
A healing/buffing class, like a teacher or something who’s job is to buff, encourage, inspire, heal the jedi/sith. Other than that, I’m not really sure, some sort of ranged .
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
If you actually like it, I will try it out, and I would absolutely join your guild.
PS, as being the first person to recognize at PAX, I think I should get a special shout out
My name was Sean by the way if you don’t remember.. haha but I’m sure you remember that, being the only person to know who you were.
1. Double-Sided Saber
2. The art would do better in a more realistic style.
3. They’re ok, standard (original) light saber looks the best
4. Republic: Jedi and …. Sith: don’t know….
5. No, i’m not gay (j/k)
1. Dual wield for me! Cause Im hopping there will be a saber throw so I can throw one then use force lung to close the gap and DESTROY THEM. (I’m Mr. DOOMDREDD) for a reason now.
2. I’m with you the style is lame looks like WoW, I want me some pimpin’ graphics. With realism, so it looks real when I STAB PUNY JEDI!!!!
3. I like the one with the hand guard for my right and for my left the spikey one so I can easily throw my left at their faces!
4. Jedi, Spy, Engineer(both sides). Infiltrator and Medic
5. Give me a clan name an a server and I will be your personal sith apprentice, a lot of people are moral in games but you normally have to be moral in real life so being violent in games is a great outlet, plus I want to kill jedi and collect their light sabers as tokens of my victory!!!!!!
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
Single, because even though the dual and double-sided make you a bit more of a badass, I would wisely use a Single
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
Well i’d say they look damn sweet
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
Again i’d say they look damn sweet but some of the others look ridculously over the top (God)
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
I haven’t got a clue
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
No………….i will not devote my soul as a sith like angry joer, i have done wrong things in the past, but now i know right and i know wrong and i have the good grace to know which is which. So you send men, your Angry Joers, your entire ARMY….. but i will be waiting for the very day you confront me and when you do, its ON!!!………… now that speech is kinda over the top but i am really challenging you and probaly your so called army to a fight on the day this game comes out, so send me a message what you actucally think
I originally posted this on the That Guy With The Glasses website and Joe’s asked me to post it here (I feel so privileged
)
Regarding Starwars and Star Trek going up against WoW, Eurogamer did a very good
article on WoW’s impact on the MMO market and there are some decent comments. My
personal favourite being the fact that market “disasters” like LOTRO and
WAR still have a larger player base then many of the pre-Wow success. You can
read it here;
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/the-real-cataclysm-article
Also Penny-Arcade had a good reason why the Star Trek MMO may not be that
steller
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/8/13/
About SWTOR? Well graphically I’m disappointed, KOTOR while an old
engine seems to have more in keeping with the feel of the Star Wars universe than the
stylised graphics. Prehaps Bioware should have just fine tuned it and added
some new graphical features. It looks better than World of Warcraft and looks more
like the movies than the current engine which looks more like Clone Wars. It already has a good range of character models and the engine is also stable and works with most hardwrae and software on the
market.
Now with the other classes its important to note that Bioware have been given free reign over the story, its set in a period with next to no backstory, sort of like a forgotten time in the Star Wars universe and which
will have no impact on whats already been written to happen later on so we could potentially see classes we’ve never known to exist.
What I still find confusing is why they felt the need to have these classes pre-set to an ideology
and this to me is a flaw not just in this game but many other MMORPGS. For the sake of narrative you are being deprived the option of playing the game the way you want to play it and the classes seem a little bizzare in their placing.
Why are smugglers fighting for the Republic? Lets not beat around the bush, smugglers
are pirates who work in the illegal trading of goods outside of Republic law. Does this sound like a good guy? If they did it legally within Republic guidlelines then they’d be called merchants. In the StarWars: Empire at War Forces of Corruption expansion smugglers were introduced as part of a third faction who were interested in wealth and power but it seems just because Han Solo was a smuggler and a hero, smugglers from then on were classed as “good guys”. Which in itself is quite bizzare, when we first meet Han Solo he is on the run from his crime lord boss for botching a smuggling run and ditching the cargo? Do we honestly believe that he was smuggling teddy bears and sweets to rebel orphans or was he more likely smuggling ilegal goods like weapons, drugs or even slaves (which makes the ditching of cargo even worse) as he was working for Jabba the Hutt. Even when he decides to “help” Luke and Obi-Wan he’s interested in the money and his own self-preservation and not the plight of the Rebel Alliance.
The same applies to Bounty Hunters. Just because Bobba Fett worked for Darth Vader and Jango Fett worked for Darth Sidious we are to assume they are bad guys? Lets look at this with some perspective, Jango Fett was hired by a senator, a legal ruling body of the Republic, to help in the creation of an army to protect the republic. Bobba Fett took a contract from the Empire, the new legal ruling body of the galaxy to
track down fugitives linked to a terrorist organisation (heroes or not, as the saying goes one man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist) and also to apprehend Han Solo, a smuggler who got caught doing
illegal shipments who went on the run instead of paying his boss back.
Bounty Hunters are generally a semi-official form of “law enforcement” and the Republic is not run by Jedi it is protected by Jedi so if a senator put a bounty on a Sith Lord’s head why would a bounty hunter not take it and theoretically fight for the republic?.
Bioware is using screwed logic for its classes and I would have much prefered it if they came out with fewer classes, a Force user, a smuggler/merchant, a commando and a bounty hunter and
gave them branching storylines which allowed you to chose your own destiny. Why
should I start as a Sith when I can start as Padawan, learn the ways of the
force, get seduced by the dark side, betray my master and follow the ways of the
dark side under Darth Joe? And why do I have to chose between Jedi or Sith in the first
place? Jolee Bindo didn’t.
This is what made KOTOR such a great game, morality wasn’t just black and white, it was a grey scale and your in game actions dictated your allegiance not your character roll. Even the much under-rated Jade Empire had a great take on the matter with its open and closed first iedologies. Closed first is ruthless but with temperment your strongest will survive attitude would create people who sre strong of will and body. The open first is the way of kindness and to protect those that can’t protect themselves but without restraint you would create a people who are solely dependant on you and could not survive without your assistance.
I did ramble on at the end but
essentially I think the class system is wrong in this game, it restricts
individualism and while my Bounty Hunters stat’s and appearance (unless there’s a single set of end game ubder gear and we all look the same in it) may be different to yours its the same character and its a character of Bioware’s creation not our own and drives a dagger through the heart of the RPG in MMORPG.
First off, they did explain Smugglers pretty well… their run ins with the law generally is only with individual planets and not the Republic as a whole. Also they are useful for running past Sith blockades and their freedom is important to them, which the Sith would want to take away…
Bounty Hunters, yeah there’s an issue…
As for black and white morality? You can be a light side Sith or a dark side Jedi… story-wise, you really think that dark side Jedi is going to be with the Order still? Its unlikely. Start reading through their site more, you won’t be disappointed.
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
Dual or Double-Sided. Looks so fucking badass!
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
I find it look abit too cartoonish. Looks more like it is based from the Clone Wars movie then from KOTOR, since KOTOR characters look better
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
Most of them are really awesome looking. Some are abit over the top to me
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
On the Republic side, hmmm, i guess a Spy or something. The Sith side, Commander and… Rogue? *shrugs*
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
)
Depends if it is on an US, EU or Worldwide server, since i am EU. If there will be worldwide servers, depends if my girlfriend (who is 100% surely going to choose Sith Warrior) would like to and if Bounty Hunters are allowed (Sorry, but i’m slightly more a Bounty Hunter fan
1. Singel, Dual or Dubble-Sided Saber? -Of corse I will use Dual. Faster attacks and easy to block with. It is not even worth asking.
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game? -Photorealisym over sylysed photorealisum
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art? -Some are badass and some are bland. I demand that you are aloud to make you saber.
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be? -Of corse there will be a jedi class, but that really don’t matter. I’m going to play as a SITH WARRIOR!
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
-Of corse. I have already divoted myself to the dark side.
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber? – Single here, but I doubt I will even use a Jedi
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game? – It works I suppose…
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art? – Badass, simple as that
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be? – I really have no idea to be honest, maybe more a utility class?
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side! – Hmmm….. still not sure what side I would go on.
1. dule (looks bad ass)
2. i will give it shot but onley becouse biowaere has my trust (for now)
3. bad ass but mabey a bit over the top but who nose
4. no clue
5. yes my masster
This game looks pretty cool. I might have to check it out someday whan it is out.
1. Single, Duel or Double-Sided Saber?
I would go with any of them but I would go for the Double-Sided Saber.
2.How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
They look good for a MMO game. If they have really cool looking armors and stuff then it would be awesome.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
The sabers look AWESOME. I LOVE the one with the spikes on it. I just hope we can choose our lightsaber colors. Black Lightsaber = EPIC WIN
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
The last one for the Jedi I think would be some kind of spy/sabotage person. The two for the Sith would be a cyborg that uses lightsabers AND lazers and StormTroopers.
5. 5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
I would join Joe in his quest to rid the Jedi once and for all! FORCE LIGHTING FTW!
Oops, I made a mistake. Not Stormtroopers but some kind of soldier that uses a blaster rifle. Some sort of tank charater I think.
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
From a movie standpoint, the single-blade saber seems to be the best option. The one instance of a double-blade saw the wielder get beat by a padawan, and the instance of wielding more than one never ended well for the people trying to do it. From my memory of KoTOR, though, double-bladed was really powerful. I’d have to go double-bladed.
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
While I can’t say I like it, it’s tolerable. If it keeps me from having to spend a mint to get a computer that will run the game, I’m all for it.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
Interesting, to say the least. Most of them are really unpractical for swinging around in combat, and look like they’d shred any clothing around the area they were hanging on your belt from.
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
Republic side will have Jedi, so I’m assuming some type of Scout class for the other slot there…infiltrator/spy type thing. For the Empire, Assassin seems like a fit, if it wasn’t too similar to Bounty Hunter, and Crime Lord/Mob Boss seems like it’d fit well.
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
Only until I can usurp…er…yes, my lord.
Dude, this looks utterly badass. Can’t wait for this shit get rollin’!
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
Dual! I go Dual sabers all the way every time. Easier to handle than double-bladed, more menacing than single!
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
It’s ok for an MMO, it’s actually really good for an MMO, too realistic and the system requirements’ll be pretty steep…
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
They mostly look badass, of course the one I like is the top one from the second group, but, unfortunately, they’re all double-bladed hilts…
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
Jedi:
Jedi Knight
Scout
Sith:
Assassin
???
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
I serve no leader! I AM the Darkside! I will destroy all and all will ultimately bow to my power and unwavering might!
I’m pretty damn excited for this game, and it’s good to see other people are as well. My only real fear is that there are going to be a million jedi and sith running around with stupid names asking for free loots and money. Angry Joe, you must use your powers to make sure that this does not happen!
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
I’d have to go with a single lightsaber. No matter how bad ass I like to think I am, I really can’t see surviving with a double-sider, or even using two at once without somehow cutting off a few fingers now and again.
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
I actually like the armor, and the bodies as a whole, but the heads sort of unnerve me. It’s like you said Joe, they look like Dark Crystal extras, and that’s a bit creepy. Overall I think it looks solid though.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
Hit and miss, like most concept art. There’s some very cool designs ranging from totally bad ass to sleek and streamlined, but there’s also one or two that look a bit too ridiculous.
The one with the spikes is growing on me, mainly because of the spike on not-business end, but the curved saber with the two angled bits jutting out at the top? That looks hilariously lame to me. On the other hand, the double-ended sabers look pretty awesome all around.
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
I’m hoping that the force wielding classes will be able to split off into what could be called “magic” classes, so there’d really be no need for a mage type class all by itself. Maybe some sort of Engineer that can use some different kinds of mechanical stuff, maybe upgrade some things with leftover parts or something?
Personally, I don’t want to see a droid class. I’ve never really been interested in droids and they seem like kind of a lame thing to play as.
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
Well as it stands right now, I’m going to be playing a bounty hunter right off the bat, but the direction the game sounds like its going in leads me to believe I could enjoy two characters without feeling like I’m retreading the same ground. Needless to say, if and when I make a Sith he’ll be ready to shred some Jedi, and my bounty hunter wouldn’t mind the occasional jedi assassination either.
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
If I choose anything but dual sabers, I’d have to be crazy.
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
It’s meh. Disappointing but I expected it to look far worse seeing as there’s so much content, or so it seems, like full voice acting, all sorts of graphic heavy abilities, lightsaber duels, conversation wheels, etc.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
I’m digging the one that’s two below the spike variant.
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
I don’t really know. It all depends on if you can be an alien or droid and if so, whether or not they’re class specific races.
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
Hell yeah!
i will follow Darth Joe or emperor Joe to the end!
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
As much as I LOVE Dual and Double Bladed Sabers, I have to stick with Single. Why? Well, yeah, you look badass with the Two blades, but when you get taken out by a guy with only one? You know he’s at least Twice as badass as you are!
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
I honestly like the Art Direction. Yeah, it’s kind of Kiddy and, well… Not all that impressive by today’s standards, It makes sense to take that direction both A) To make themselves a little more unique and B) To appeal to a wider audience, thereby making even MORE money. Good Business Decision, I think. Plus, there’s a charm to it… I don’t know what it is I like about the Direction, but It’s just, I dunno appealing somehow.
Though I admit – Having the same quality as that Cinematic Trailer every time you boot up the game would be BADASS.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
I think we can all agree that the Spiked Saber that you zoomed in on is probably the most bad ass thing in a Star Wars game for quite some time. Besides that sheer moment of nerd glory and awesomeness, the designs are well-thought out, unique, and really have that “Old Republic” Feel to ‘em, where everything is a bit larger and clunkier, yet at the same time, more elegant and regal.
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
Easily a Spy for the Republic and a Droid Assassin for the Sith. Those two are a safe bet, I would say. I think the Jedi Class would also function as a Healing Class, since there’s the whole “Force Heal” power going on, so no need for a Medic Class for the Republic, but I can see a Sith Alchemist being the Dark Side’s version of a Medic. The Bionic Upgrades and Stims he creates would give you a temporary boost in Power, Speed, etc. while also healing you to a certain degree. Never to 100% health, though, if only to stay with the continuity of “Sith Pervert Nature” deal.
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
I would, actually. I’ve played the Jedi too many times in KOTOR, and didn’t get as much satisfaction out of being a Sith as it should’ve provided. SWOTOR seems like the perfect place to finally get the joy out of being pure and unnaturally evil!
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
I would go with single. And focus on force powers.
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
I think it looks alright but the faces look weird.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
Think it looks great hopefully you can see the differences clearly in-game.
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
On light side. Wookiee warrior
On dark side. Mandalorian and Assassin droid.
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion?
Yes Sounds like fun, if Europeans can play on American servers.
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
Dual Wielding Double-Sided Saber with laser attachments.
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
It;s a good compromise.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
I think I saw those in a local sex shop once, not that I’ve ever been to a sex shop.
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
Meat frag classes: Jar-Jar and Drone.
And a wannabe Sith class.
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
Yes. I will serve the Sith Legion by killing him and become Overlord myself. He will never see me coming MUAHAHAHAHA. Oh wait ….. Damn!
Sith Name Ideas:
Darth Rodyti (Show)
Darth Piktas (Angry)
Darth Imperija (Empire)
Darth Raudonas (Red)
Darth Tamsus (Dark)
Yes, alot of awesome sounding names are quite lame
I sent this on Youtube to Joe, But I’m Going to repost it here:
” After seeing your idea of in TOR forming a guild/group/whatever BioWare decides it will be called, I came up with some ideas for it.
1) Joe Bounties: Make an character any member can give money to to hold safely, and make a weekly bounty, like Kill 10 Jedi. The players would have to take screenshots of the dead bodies and and send them to you (you should make a rule that they need to send them in a group in increments of whatever you want). You then go on the money holding one and send them the amount of promised Credits/Object(s) Make it so you can’t repeat them, but you can achieve it each week (but make them different, like kill 15 Wookies). This would make people hunt down those on the light side of the force.
2) Player Bounties: These are sent to you, and then you broadcast them to the group, but tell them to contact _______ with their email to send the pics and get their Credits/Object(s).
3) Sith Ranking: Basically, make people move up the ranks the old fashioned Sith way: by killing Jedi/Any other light siders. The more times the person gets the goal of murders a week, the higher they move up, until they get to whatever (Rank for group (if possible) idea: Joe’s Apprentice).
4) Angry Joe Army Attacks: Have the group (and hired bounty hunters) attack cities. Raid on Jedi Temple? Awesome.
Also, I have a few questions.
1) If possible to be non-human, what species will you be? (If I can, I think I might be a Sith Wookie, because ripping your arms off and then chopping your head off is win).
2) Would you like me to post a link to your site on some forums?
Thank you for putting up with my long message Joe!”
1. Single, Dual, or Double-sided?
I’d go with Double-sided. I mean, Darth Maul kicked ass with it (shame he died) and I’m sure a lot of other people will too.
4. What do you think the other 3 classes will be?
I really don’t think this will happen but it would be cool if their is a Traitor character (much like Anakin in EP. 3) where you have the same sort of charcateristics as a Jedi Knight but in reality you go around tearing up the Republic from the inside without anybody knowing about it except you and the Sith. Also another class could be Sith Lord, who rules his own army of Sith warriors (sorry Joe, but Sith warriors really are inferior to Sith Lords). The Lord would be powerful in force attacks like Lightning and a bit weak at sabre duels. He could also punish his warriors for losing battles in some way or another.
I gotta say, I’ve paid for a few months of WoW over the past couple of years (I only play when I’m on break from school), so what do I think about paying a monthly subscription fee for SW: TOR? Let me put it this way: I’ve paid for WoW, and there aren’t even Sith Lords in that game!
As for the other questions…
1. Single for me. I rock it old school. Good enough for Vader, good enough for me.
2. I think the art direction is a little too cartoony (they should really try to stray from that terrible Clone Wars show as much as possible), and that cinematic is so bad-ass, but you’re def right, it’s because of specs. Which I have to admit, will be good for me. Cause my computer’s kinda balls.
3. They did let you customize your saber a bit in KOTOR2 (the only one I’ve played), so I hope we get to rock our own style of blades.
4. There’s got to be some kind of builder or mechanic fella on each side. Not that I care, I am so going for Sith!
5. Hells yeah, Joe. Just need to come up with a sinister name for the Guild. The Jedi will burn!
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
Single, with a catch. If I could use another weapon, such as a Sith lanvarok, I’d gladly keep to just one light saber.
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
It’s fine. Obviously in such a massive game, realistic graphics aren’t as realistic as they could be if it were a more traditional RPG. There will probably be parts that look good and parts that don’t look so good. It won’t win any awards, but if it’s engaging you may not notice them all that much anyway.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
Interesting. Light saber designs are limited only by your creativity. If you can customize them as you please, at least these will give you some ideas.
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
The Jedi and Republic are basically the same team with the Republic having its army of troopers and the Jedi being, well, Jedis. In its history, the Republic has also formed an alliance with the Smugglers.
The Sith Empire was allied with the Mandalorians (bounty hunters). Doing a little research, I found the Sith had a caste system. Other than the slave caste (which you wouldn’t play as) and Sith Lord (which is actually a title of leadership and not a class), there were 3 classes. A warrior class, a priest class and an engineering class. I think it’s possible those could be the other classes: Sith Engineer and Sith priest. This give credence to those who mentioned having some Sith focused on melee and some focused on Force “magic” attacks. It also allows a class that deals with technology for both unique items and maybe a special use of droids – as I think droids would be difficult as a class story-wise. Of course, there could be a basic trooper-like class, but if you’re playing for the Sith, why would you want to be one of those?
Now, as for the Jedi, there is a lot of information on specializaions. That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised to see 2 distinct Jedi classes. Possibly, though, Jedi might be a class with the option to specialize or generalize as you please.
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
Only if I can get Chick-Fil-A.
I also choose to walk the path of the Sith Warrior so I can use the power of the Dark side to destroy the jedi and help conqueror the galaxy under the banner of the Sith Empire.
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
If I had to choose right now I would go for double-sided saber or because its the most difficult of the three to master and due to its orthodox combat style to inflict greater damage to my opponents.
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
Like many other fans its not the best art i’ve ever seen but if it helps game play by reducing lag then even the Emperor himself might find forgiveness.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
I think there all very good and more importantly creative. It would also be very important for players to customize their own lightsabers in order for every sith to feel unique amongst other players.
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
Right now its really anyone’s guess on what Bioware would consider Heroic enough to be made into a class and something that every fan would feel familiar with but if I had to guess I suppose Assassin for the Sith Empire and some sort of support/healing class for each side as the final two. I would say its possible that for there to be two sith and jedi classes because in Star Wars lore both sides featured individuals that specialized more towards lightsaber combat and others more towards the use of the force so there is always the potential for it to happen.
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
I believe that true Sith only pledge loyalty to leaders that have proven their power which is not the case right now since this game is not released yet. Also I plan on creating my own Sith guild when the game goes live in which i’ll help create and possibly lead. However I always keep an open mind so i’ll keep you in mind if yours comes together and who knows what might happen if a certain guild has the right leaders. Also never forget the Dark Side is with you all!
1.Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber? Personally Im a fan of twin sabers and if they are in the game twin shoto (aka short sabers)
2.How do you like the Art Direction of the Game? The art makes no diffrence to me if the game is anywhere near as good as the two Kotor games.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art? I wholeheartedly approve of these designs.
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be? Jedi Knight, some sort of medic and Mechanic, Sith trooper, some sort of medic, and a Droid Master.
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side! All I have to say to this is command me lord Joe.
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
Dual. I’m sure there’s some downside to having dual weapons, like how two handed weapons work in any other game, but it just feels more satisfying.
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
I do hope they decide to make it more realistic, but considering the game’s release is really only slate 2010, I’m sure this is just what the graphics look like now, wouldn’t be hard to make it better than WoW who chose a graphics style and never changed.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
I thought they looked pretty badass, the only reason I wouldn’t think they’d be in the game is because you would hardly be able to see them, your hand will always be covering them and you have no reason to zoom in on them.
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
For the Republic I’m assuming something like a sort of Wookie type class, and for the empire I couldn’t really guess, maybe troopers of some sort or some kind of droid, I dunno.
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
As tempting as that offer is I’m gonna have to pass… for now. Personally I don’t get people’s fascination with being evil in games, I can’t do it in KotOR, I can’t do it in Mass Effect, I can’t do it in Fable, hell I probably couldn’t do it in GTA if I had the damn game! I would probably consider making an alt that would be on the Empire, but for now I’m sticking with Republic.
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber? Double Sided.
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game? It’s ok, and it will run on you laptop, so I like it.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art? SO AWESOME!
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be? Jedi Knight, 2 unlockable Classes (Level __): The Sith Lord and the Jedi Master, and a Assassin Droid.
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side! I’d join, but there should be an in-guild thing. Slay ____ Jedis and take screens of their dead bodies and send them to Joe for ____ Credits.
Hello AngryJoe this is my first time posting on your site. The Old Republic, from what research ive done on it, does look like it will be utterly badass. As for the stylization, this is a VERY common thing with many MMOs, the trailers are photorealistic, but the actual gameplay, in order to allow as many ppl as possible to play, is not. Ive seen this in WoW, EVE, and most of the rest that i have played.
But i digress, as for your questions:
1. Personally, out of all of the ways to use a lightsaber ive seen over the years, id have to say that my favorite was the way that the Secret Apprentice from Force Unleashed was probably the coolest. While this will probably not make it in game, i would still LOVE to see it. But my vote is for two lightsabers anyways.
2. After playing a lot of MMOs you get used to the type of art that is in them. They are, for the by and large most part, just like this. So i cant really complain.
3.If we can have those kinds of sabers in-game, FUCKING SIGN ME UP!!! XD
4. Well the typical class set for most MMOs are;
a.Tanks to absorb damage. I have seen this in the Republican Troopers, but we have yet to see a class like this for the Empire, so i expect an Imperial Trooper or something like that.
b. Casters to dish out damage. This can be futher sub-divided into ranged and melee casters. The Sith Warrior looks like a melee/ranged hybrid caster type class and i assume that the Jedi class will be at LEAST a melee caster so we have that covered. The Smuggler and Bounty Hunters are covering the specific weaknesses of the Sith/Jedi, thats why in the vid the bounty hunter was paired with the Sith, but then again that could be just because they havent finished any other classes yet.
c. Healers to remove damage from your party. We have yet to see this type for EITHER side. I can easily see a Medical Droid or something close to it for the Empire. As for the Republic i still dont know, but my best guess is that there are two types of Jedi, Jedi Warriors and Jedi Healers. But then again its just a guess.
5. My Lord i know for a fact that the “values” that the Jedi scum preach to the galaxy, such as peace, love, hope, joy, freedom are all lies. This galaxy, in fact this whole universe is one BIG, CORRUPT hell-stomping ground, that seeks to crush the life right out of all that inhabit it. Embracing your ANGER, your HATRED, your own inner demons, and destroying your fears will allow you to not only survive but THRIVE. Once more it will be the SITH, not those filthy, corpulent, twisted and weak Jedi that will rule the galaxy. If you, Darth (Jovinius, Jovian, Joventium??) will lead us to such a true paradise, i will GLADLY follow you to the very gates of HELL and back, all the while with a smile on my face and a song of VICTORY AND GLORY in my soul. ^^
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
Dual, it’s fun and if the sabers are like Kotor, you can customize each hand for different uses.
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
I’m with Joe, the art would do better in a more realistic style. However, I might be suprised later.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
most of them look pretty cool, the spikey ones look like you can use them as weapons w/o turning them on, that’d be an awesome stealth sith/jedi weapon.
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
Light Side:
Senator
Spy
Bounty Hunter (do to you know…being a bounty hunter you can switch sides.)
Dark:
Assassin
VIP
Infiltrator
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
There is another side besides the dark side? When the hell did that happen? Oh…those ‘jedi’ guys right, who in thier right mind wants to be a loser in a robe following around a muppet who isn’t even allowed to have emotions or you know do anything cool with your powers?
Hate to break it to you, but they have already said no class is going to be on BOTH sides. Whether that changes at some point is a possibility, but as disappointing as not being able to play a Republic Bounty Hunter is, don’t get your hopes up for it being in on release.
i think the 2 sabers are beast i remenber the 1st game and that was one of the best games i played and this one will be better and the saber art things a stupidly cool and so i will buy the game.
Just a side note, This will be my first MMO(not counting MUD’s).
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
Double-sided, Darth Maul style, without the dying
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
I dont like it, its a cool concept, but i wanted a Kotor 3
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
I like the middle one on right side, Count Dooku but with more stuff, and it has like flaps from Red Faction: Guerilla’s rocket launcher
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
Good: Jedi(duh!) Mechanic type, and Medic
Evil: Soldier(hopefully in that chrome armor from kotor!), and i dont really give a fuck, im a Bounty hunter, all the way!
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
well, if the pay is good enough, HELL YEAH, but….. my gun is up to the highest bidder, if Joe cant pay, maybe someone else, like, the We Hate Angry Joe Clan has an opening, and a thick wallet
You know, looking at the poll, I’m surprised you didn’t add in Champion Online’s sub model… subscriptions AND MTs :p. Which reminds me, what DO you think about that?
The only thing I want to see from this game (other than that its free to play) Is a different moral system. The way any other moral system work is that you either get to be Nazi killing good or baby eating bad. Onto the questions!
1.Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
Gun obviously. Oh sure I might miss out on actually good skills and get tat ones, but that still doesn’t change the fact that I have range and you don’t.
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
Well, as long as there’s no swear filter, I really don’t care. Huzzah!
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
Well, for one thing I’ll be carrying a gun, but also, is it noticeable?
Think about it, it’s about as big a ruler, and do you really care enough to notice other players? No? Then be quiet.
4.4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
Heavy? Sniper?Class that noone wants to be but everyone wants on there team?
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Only if the sith have better weapons and I cant be neutral.That being said, I have doubts about netral, because i doubt this game is going to break the mold of a moral system
1. Single, Dual, or Double-Sided Saber?
Single, we’re dealing with an all cutting blade here. And fighting with two sabers is like an extreme version of rubbing your belly and patting your head at the same time. I’d rather focus on the one blade and get it right than swing two around and remove my own leg by accident. It’d be a bit embarrassing even if they have cybernetic replacements in Star Wars. Plus I’m an old school fan, single looks the most Jedi like to me.
2. How do you like the Art Direction of the Game?
That’s a tough one. It certainly is Star Wars enough, the Imperial uniforms look Imperial. Troopers look like troopers, and so on. But the character themselves look a bit odd. But after having seen so much footage of the game it’s starting to grow on me. And it is a step up for from the almost too symmetrical faces found in the original Knights of the Old Republic, which also had pretty weird facial animation to boot.
3. What did you think of the sabers from concept art?
A bit hit and miss. On the picture with the six designs I particularly liked the left hand designs and the bottom right one since they are very much what you’d expect from lightsabers, simple, practical, and some of them even have a guard to prevent the hand coming onto the blade too easily (very handy seeing how your fingers would pretty much be gone in an instant). Some of them are (in my opinion) a bit too elaborate in my opinion. But then I believe in form follows function. Some Jedi, particularly dark Jedi would probably be a bit more eager to show off the fancy things they can do in a workshop while making their saber(s).
4. What do you think the other 3 Classes will be?
That remains to be seen on whether or not Bioware will go by the typical archetypes. I’m really hoping that there will be just one Force using class per side and that you can choose for yourself if it grows into a melee attack class or a caster or a support class or a fusion of those. Or they could perhaps be making counterparts of each. Like Bounty Hunter vs. Smuggler, Jedi vs. Sith. And then probably Republic Trooper vs. Imperial Soldier, and then, oh I dunno, Scout vs. Infiltrator?
5. Would you Pledge your Undying Loyalty and Serve your Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion? Joe is gauging interest for a Sith Guild within the game, let him know if you desire unimaginable power within the Dark Side!
Joe, you’re a cool guy, but I finished the original KotOR without a single dark side point. I’ll have to decline your offer and walk the light path. (Unless you accept alts into your guild… and if Europeans can play on American servers)
1. I pick single caz if I kick your ass with one blade then you know I am the best MF in the galaxy!
2.I think some of the art is good and some is bad I know you said it look cartoon but hey if it make it work better on my computer then it a sacraface that I live with!
3. I think some of them are kick ass and some are not i do like the skike thing you can alway turn off the blade and hit somebody with it lol!
4. I think the other 3 class will be other force class or spy or something we never seen befor.
5. YES I Pledge MY Undying Loyalty and Serve TO MY Overlord and Master Angry Joe as a Member of the Sith Legion! I AM SITH ALL THE WAY BABY LOL. ALL HAIL OVERLORD AND MASTER ANGRY JOE, ALL HAIL OOVERLORD AND MASRTER ANGRY JOE!!!!! Join together and rule the galaxy HA HA HA!