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I would not even send it to be repaired. i would open it up. Screw the warranty. Stupid microsoft pLaced a shared heating sink like radiator with a single fan to cool down 2 chips! That’s right Joe. The Cpu and The GPU are both weilded on the same Board and the distance between each is pretty close. Generaly you have the northbridge closeby not the goddamn GPU.
It’s as if Microsoft made the deseing on purpose for it to break. All you have to do is go get some thermal paste and remove the heatsink “delicatly” it has a X shape radiator. Notice the cpu and gpu are like flat squares that shines on the board.
On the heatsink side you will notice that the same cooper plate being in contact with both cpu and gpu! Not really efficient if you ask me.
I would cut the first plate right in the middle and place a isolator material between the first plate. So that the heat dissapation from the cpu and GPu are SEPAREATED!! What you don’t whant is the Gpu sharing it’s heat signature with the CPU.
Check thermal specification of cooper. Then note that the gpu reach a temp of 40 Celcius on IDLE!!! Can reach 70 celcius on use.
On the cpu case however its a mere 25 celcius idle and 50 on load.
Calculating the Heat specs. of cooper adding it with the temperature of the GPU and the CPU you get a a whooping idle temperature of 43,6 celcius. —(Yep, your cpu is gona get that heat)
Just guest the on load temperature. then just imagnie the heavy load over extended time.
Remember that on all computer compnents. Excessiding 70 celcius is considered dengerous. without proper ventilation. (good ventilation is a positive pressure. —-(+ pressure is when you have more air that gets in then leave) (- pressure is the oposite and cause trendmanous ammount of heat litteraly transforming a computer case into a toaster)
Worst enemy of computer hardware = Over voltage and high heat. Place your xbox 360 on a ziploc “tm”. remove the air and place it on the freezeer for at least 48 hours.Do not remove any components before. Not even the HDD. Well removing any gaming Discs. D’uh.
Removing the air is premordial because you do not whant to have condensation transforming into ice crystal inside your xbox 360!
hope this helps.
Is this why you never get on Xbox 360 Joe?
break that pice of shit, thats why i have ps3
Me too, and I’ve never regretted my choice.
This may be a silly question, depending on the answer, but; Is it true that Xbox 360s were deliberately built poorly so that they would be sent in for repair more often? Its a rumour that been going around for years, but I’ve never been sure if it is true or not. I always hoped that a large company would never be THAT greedy, but you never know…
this is why im a pc gamer
Even though you OBVIOUSLY have a console only game as avatar pic?
You Should get a PS3 its much more reliable and has many more awesome game exclusives
Ok so Costco gave me a life time warranty on my X box 360. This is a real warranty. What does that mean? It is a cash in hand deal which means when my X box 360 breaks I take it back and they give me back the full amount is cash that it cost. And then I go and pick out a new one. It is usually at least 10 bucks cheaper so I get paid for my time having to bring it back. I have gone through 4 of four of the of them and I have only gotten my money paid back to me. So who is to blame for this bad product? All of you who bought your X box from other stores. Why? Why? Why? Did you not read about this problem? Do you do no product research? You are the problem. They will keep on making these systems if you keep buying them from places that don’t provide life time warranties. Stop giving these other game stores business. Do some actual research!!!!!! Yes I know you want to play your games and researching hurts but you are the problem and you make it worse by rewarding companies with money.
That really fucking sucks, just started coming to AJS not too long ago, if I had know sooner I’d seen a couple bucks.
XD nice shop, it made me chuckle. i am also sorry for your loss *pats on shoulder*
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I had this happen to me for the 2nd time about a month ago!! the first time xbox replaced it or not replaced but fixed and even put in a new disc drive which i didnt even know was faulty. Anyways they were really good about it and sorted it out. Considering i had it 2yrs prior i wasnt to bothered about it. But then…………………… Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo…………………… Again….. not again……. so i phoned them and like you joe the waranty was not valid now! you piece of #’#'[[pko microsoft im half way through red dead redemption and final fantasy grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Anyways im skint and havnt been playing on it as dont wanny splash out on a new console till i decide which one but unfortunately just 5 min before the ring of death appeared microsoft live put on an offer for a yrs subscription for £32 which i pressed and then after that it broke just as the new xbox slim was due out that day. Good excuse to buy a new one or maybe…. A CONSPIRICY MWA HA HA. Seems a bit of a coincedance microsoft. Well im still with out either console and decided to look on my lappy at a quick fix for it and tried something on the off chance and switched it on last night and it worked whoooooooohooooooooooo i love you microsoft but it only lasted 3min before crashing. I have no red ring of death now but a console that switches on to tease me then crashes nnnnnooooooooooooooo………..Evil Bill i hate you.
This happened to me twice, the second time….it was completely dead. I now have my brother’s xbox because he got the new one…Im just happy I have something to play on 🙂
I just told my dad to get rid of the old one, but I should have burnt it, written I hate you all over it, jammed it in an elavator door, marked it with a stanley knife and launched it ifrom a cannon off the top of a REALLY tall building. >:D
1st time when i got the 360 i actually thought i got the RROD until i noticed the back the AV cords wernt plugged in
yeah, we’ve all had those derp moments. i’ve had them with my printer a lot
Curb stomp that piece of shit!
Great job with the site, but the videos take a while to load, i think it’s my internet conection, well still waiting for the second part on the video RROD.
well.. one idea joe, is this.. you open the xbox 360, get down to all of the circuitry and find an x shaped metal plate, remove it, take the heat syncs off, place a pad, which has 2 copper pennies wrapped in electrical tape, on the four chips and use heat resistant let or epoxy on it and close it all back they way it was and boom, the xbox 360 will work again and never have the rrod ever again
ps.. i’m a ps3 person
I dont know if this helps but this worked for me, when i saw the RROD i turned my xbox off and unplugged everything and waited for 30 seconds, ive never gotten it again so i dont know if its just some random thing that happend or it will actually work
microsoft has been great to me, even though i badmouth them all the time. i have/had a 1st generation Xbox that RRoDed. and have had it replaced 5 times since then! actualy expecting my new Xbox to arive today or tomarrow. i guess because mine was a first gen it came with a 3 year warrenty. “/
i dont know if they repaired my console or just keep sending me different broken ones because the serial number is never consistant.
anyway i feel your pain joe. regardless of how well they handle the problem… THERE SHOULD NOT FUCKING BE ONE IN THE FIRST GODDAMNED PLACE! Bastards!!
P.S. HAHAHAHA GG!
Angry joe i can fix this if you wont with a charge of a $1 for screws and bolts as i pay for the rest i LOVE your show great review. and the period of time is 1 week but i swear the 360 will be fix for eternity some times it will lag but not often there 12% lags and the other percent it will work
Hell I have no freakin idea about the 360 and the Ps3. Basically both of them have problems and to me that’s a bunch of BULLCRAP! I honestly think that it’s a waste of your peresious time and money to get a new console, and I really won’t SCEA and Microsoft game studios have to change these problems fast!
There’re reasons I’m not picking a new PS console because you now can’t play your ps2 games on it that’s a bunch of BS! also, the red ring of death? I don’t know crap about it, if there’s any body out there that can tell me about this I’ll be wise about what console to buy. And this is just a problem to me that Xbox 360s can’t play all Xbox games WTF!?!?!
Also to just clear this up I’m not picking witch game console is better okay! Both are good and both have problems it’s just that so let’s just stop with that.
this has never happened to me but joe dont u have a ps3?
Just happened to me today Joe. I’ve had this thing for 2 years and I get the RROD just now. What a joke! I was just using it last night with no problems wtf happened!
Dead Skeletor if he has RRoD he cant go on live -_-
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lol this is exactly how i acted when i had my first red ring of death in the first 1:25 there rest is how ill probably act when i have to repair it my self.
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i mean i couldn’t buy bad company 2 sry commented on the wrong video…crap.
i wish i could buy the game but “i haz no money”…:'(….but im geting final fantasy XIII and i hope joe plz review it…im begging you here!…plz.atleast just search it on google and read about it and say wat u think.
If you are going to buy a new one buy a membership to Sam’s Club and buy it there. If you keep all the parts and the box they will return it for a new one forever as long as you have the receipt. The $40 membership fee is cheaper then any warranty. If they give you any lip just tell them you are going to call the complaint hotline on them.
Come to the Dark side Joe!
This happened to me 4 weeks ago and my warranty expired about a year ago. My console had also had a warranty repair back in 2007 so your situation here is very similar to mine. I called Microsoft to find out what I could do and was told that if I was the original owner (which I was), and I had registered the console when I bought it (which I did) and if I did not break the warranty sticker or opened the unit ever(which I never have), then Microsoft would fix it for FREE.
The most important thing is that you’re the original owner – as if you buy a second hand console from somebody, the warranty does not transfer. If you can quote the serial number, the time of the last repair, your email address, physical address and phone number at the time of the last repair – they will repair or replace it for FREE.
My console was replaced and back to me in two and a half weeks. I hope this helps.
Where do I sign for a class action lawsuit, I am pissed, my Xbox of a few years went out while playing MW2,… this RROD is just to sell more consoles, Guaranteed, and FUCK Warranties … dont mean shit, I had to buy an arcade Xbox and just pulled the harddrive from my RROD Xbox, but still, its BULLSHIT! Please, ANGRY ARMY, lets get this in front of Microsoft, and make a difference…
if i remember correctly even though ive had 360 sence came out an ive never had the red rings you can send the 360 in as many times as you want an they will fix it it has nothing to do with the warranty cause its there fault that this problem exists my freind had sent his in twice sence an his warrantly has been over for along
To my recollection as long as it dies WITHIN the extended 3 year warranty and you get a RRoD or in my case yesterday RLoD (Red Light of Death “E 74”) you can send in and get it repaired for free and it renews the warranty on it for I have herd another year. Keep in mind too that you WONT get your original X-Box back that you sent in for repair you actually receive another refurbished console. So you could technically send it in for repairs and get one back that was even more screwed than the one before it.
Joe I will fix it for free that is what I do. I normally charge but to keep you up and running I will fix it for free.
Just message me on live Dead Skeletor is my tag.
i too had the xbox since the day it came out and mine broke after about 4 months back then there was no warranty i had to pay £60 for microsofts console flaw, so i got my xbox back 8 more months and i have rrod again this time i used the warrenty but it got lost in the mail so i had to wait a further 3 weeks. I got rrod recently so i took my xbox to gamestation and payed £40 to swap it with two year guarentee microsoft are unrealible money grabbing bastards, but i still love there console lol.