Star Trek Online Review
The Short Version: Star Trek Online had its work cut out for it. It would need to find a happy medium between satisfying Hardcore Fans & Typical MMO players. Unfortunately, Instead of offering us a Unique Innovative game worthy of its License; we get a Rushed, Repetitive, and Ultimately Disappointing Effort. Its the Space Combat within beautiful backdrops that manage to save this game, but how long will users be willing to pay $15 monthly for a Combat-centric Star Trek when there are others that do similar without a recurring fee?
My Thoughts:
Right now the game has been out for about a month or so, and there have already been plenty of great reviews. But I wanted to make sure I told you guys how I felt about this one. Being as how it was one of my most anticipated games of 2010 (even giving it a full 10/10 on my hype meter).
Its not that this is a Terrible game, its not that there isn’t enough in it, not at all. There’s plenty of content in the game there’s no doubting that. Even all the “Major” Races get their own huge sectors, but its whether you will even be willing to explore these based on the bare-minimum experience offered?
And this is even more so about wasted potential.
I had a dream of a Star Trek MMO that felt like the show, with weird Aliens races that would appear on your Bridge viewscreen requesting your help – only here it could be with any number of player created races. You could solve their issues with Intelligent problem-solving, beam down to their planet in an away teams to conduct investigations, maybe uncovering a crime, hunting down the killer to his hideout or fighting alien beasts that have laid ruined to an entire civilization. I had a vision where exploration would play just as an important role as space combat. A Dream about a Game where players could Bold go where no man has gone before. This isnt that game.
Here, aside from the combat (hours and hours of grinding) the only fun is to visit places we HAVE gone before, from the shows – and even that is a disappointment with empty rooms devoid of personality. The Truth is if you stripped away the Star Trek License what you would be left with is an Average space combat game.
Here Cryptic used the “Star Trek” paint brush but forgot to inject the Spirit of the Franchise. The result is a slightly above average game that feels both exhilarating and disappointing all at the same time.
I wanted this game to succeed more than any game in recent memory as evident in my preview video, “Star Trek Online: Will it Suck?”.
I Understand that MMO’s are ongoing process that grow and expand on the original gameplay offered, which is why instead of a formal video review I decided to make a List of Improvements for the Game, and to point out some things that I hate about it with ways it could possibly improve into something we can be proud to recommend to anyone.
Top 5 Things I Hate about STO…and how to Improve them.
What you’ll Like:
• Space Combat is Great, feels similar to the wonderful Starfleet Command Games.
• Having the Duality of Space Combat and Ground Combat help to keep things fresh.
• The Universe is filled with Interesting and Beautiful Backgrounds on both the Space and Ground Components.
• Getting to play within the Star Trek Universe, piloting your favorite ships and fighting familiar enemies.
What you’ll Hate:
• Cryptics First Mistake was building this game from the Champions Online Engine, instead of crafting one that could be built specifically for Star Trek.
• Ground Combat is lacking, I stand in place and shoot while your melee animations appear to have no effect.
• Aside from a new ship there is barely any incentive for advancement.
• With no real death penalty battles can feel meaningless regardless of what tactics you use.
• The Genesis System (Randomly Generated Systems and Exploration content) is disappointing.
Final Verdict:
6/10
Slightly Above Average
Issue your own Final Score Above!
It does me great honor to do battle with the Great Spoonytock!






Greetings, awesome post.
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I’m sure others have already said it, but it sounds like what you want to see is Star Trek: Online as made by Bioware ^_^
I’m glad I waited to get this game; first off I didn’t know that it was built using the Champions Online engine (which works great for Super Heroic combat, but not as well for stuff outside that, in my opinion.
Now, if this game were to become Free to Play (like Dungeons and Dragons Online and Lord of the Rings Online), I might download it, and even put some cash into it from time to time.
As to the Holodecks; save that for the inevitable nude mods that always appear for games like this (Ummmmm…. nekkid Horta hotness ^_^).
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OH and one last thing Project kursed could take a few years because thats what one of the guys in the team said to us fans.They once they feal comfterbal enough they will have a world wide beta
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Aw crap didn’t finsh.Overall I think that project kursed will kick ass.
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Hey joe I found this new kick ass game trailer.Sorry for so many comments in one day but this is the LAST comment.I herd the game is called Project Kursed.It has an unreak egiune 3 which lets you flip tables for cover and cooler destroy walls i think.It has interactive cutsecens and cool secens.
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I have found this post to be extremely beneficial. Thanks for posting it.
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Well this MMO was a little dissapointing so i’ll just wait for Star wars the old republic.
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I found a website with some information on an expansion to STO. Not sure if its released yet. It was written in March.
heres the link:
http://trekweb.com/articles/2010/03/17/Star-Trek-Online-MMORPG-Game-New-Content-Expansion-Fact-Sheet-and-New-Trailer.shtml
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JOE you are the man! This game is horrible. I have begun a war for cryptic to clean up their act!
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That game is a piece of crap. The developers who are only interested in selling things in thier shop have NO idea how to efectively put together a half way decent online game to compete with the ones already out there.
Starting with the graphics wich SUCK ( heck, I have original nintendo games with much better graphics), and continuing down the line to game mechanics, quest lines and so on a so forth, is a huge dispointment to those of us WHO grew up with star trek original series TSO with William Shatner, and Leonard Nimoy (Thats capt KIRK and SPOCK for you landlubbers) and contined on with with Patrick Stewart and His magnificent crew of TNG.
Obviusly they wanted two things, One to make money of indvidual who know jack about the series, ( just watching the new ST movie 100 times doesnt make you a bonafide trekie) and to try to beat the DEVS of eve online, well good luck on that one… for starters eve online graphics alone will send this people STO running to dev school ( and not again, but for the fisrt time, hehe)
Conclusion: That game has abosolutely nothing to offer to the serious gamer, in fact they should PAY US to play it. is so bad that I wont bother with a score, cuz it didnt make it in me eyes even to the scale of 1
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since you bring up star fleet command (and seeing how you seem to like table top games, like blood bowl), ever play Star Fleet Battles?
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This is the best game review i ever seen! U two guys are the amazing! I totally agree with you, star trek online as its now it suks hard! But i still think that would be nice to play it just for a few days.
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i say if im expected to pay for an MMO – goddammit i want crazy shit like JOe suggested! woot woot
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You demanding too much from MMORPG. Really, dialog system? Bluff? This things die out even from offline RPGs, masses don’t want them, it’s too complicated and require too much work, companies like Cryptic just can’t afford it. I know there is some quests, that do not require you killing everything you see, but it’s far away from exploration.
Ok, what really hit the spot is deck. Do all things from it, not from stupid pop-up windows. It will be hard, confusing and unintuitive, but so cool.
And I don’t recommend to rise your hopes for KOTOR MMO, it’s BioWare, one of the two decent RPG makers(the other one in Obsidian if you wonder), but it’s still MMO. Look at EQ2 and WoW, I doubt you’ll get something better or different.
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But SWTOR already has a confirmed dialog system with outcomes for both alignment and story. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are bluffing options, and it’s fully voiced. Sounds different than WoW to me.
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Thats the worst thing about STO, it feels so cobbeled together which is probably down to whats happened during its development lifetime. We are probably lucky to have any form of Star Trek Online.
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Honestly, I haven’t played the game. I would’ve loved to have heard it was awesome, but MMOs are too risky to buy. If they’re not worth the monthly fee, they’re a waste of money.
From what you’re saying, it sounds like the game would’ve been better offline. An RPG with a story mode for Federation or Klingon with Multiplayer combat seems like a more likely candidate. But again, that’s with not having played it.
Looking at the website, it seems like they might be rolling out some of that “investigate and explore” content. The concern I have is that it might be stale. The borg have been used enough that they’re not as spectacular as they first were. That doesn’t mean it won’t be great, but it’s more difficult to get hyped. Also, using Q could be interesting…as long as they do it correctly. They could easily screw it up.
I look forward to your review of it. If you ever tell me its worth picking up, I might just have to join the fleet.
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a perfect 10 for spoony performance, you forgot to tell about life span registration plan here in europe for 175 euros… ahem… still hope SWOP will be much better
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If Star Trek Online PvP feels so meaningless to you, perhaps you should try Pirates of the Burning Sea, where losing your ship means just that, your ship is gone. (Well not quite, it has between 2-4 respawn points). Once you use massive warships for PvP, losing them can mean dozens, if not hundreds of hours of game time gone down the drain, so when your battling, you feel your blood rush!
Although it does have problems, such as not enough ship variety in my mind, mission grinding can be boring, but the people you can meet and the Realm vs Realm is like no other game. Pirates, English, French and Spainish duking it out.
I thought at first that STO would be like PotBS, but in space, it’s truly sad that it isn’t, because I would jump at a game where it could be Federation vs klingon, cardassian, romulan and others expanding and pushing forth empires and diplomacy. Perhaps in another decade…
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I hope that future expansion will give the trekkies a much better Star Trek experience.
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i would love it if you did a top 5 things that will kick ass on star wars the old republic i believe its going to be an amazing game and another great video by angry joe and the always kick ass spoony XD
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Ah so a How Old Republic Will Kick Ass may be in the near future?
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Hey Joe,
I’ve been looking forward to seeing what you’d have to say about STO, and wow, congratulations on this masterpiece! Your production value has always been very high, but this one is a bar raiser! Good script, great editing, good arguments, great acting (you and Spoony do make the perfect team), just an all-round fantastic production. So thank you for the time and effort you’ve put into this, I truely loved it!
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It would be neat if whilst exploring space it was a camera view of the deck and whenever you give commands, like fire weapons or what not, you would actually see the captain barking the orders at their crew and their crew responding. This would really cool and yet it’s something that i have never seen in a game.
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Hey i loved the video very funny and Awesome in general i have not played this but i have played other Bland mmo Game’s like WOW i have played it away and it is just SOO bland my friends tell me get to 80 blah blah and you will have Real fun i dont think it should be like that To much Grinding and All the Quests feel the same. But the other reason i am saying this is Joe you should look in to Interplay They Are coming back and bring with them a New earthworm Jim and a project called V-13 i am pretty sure its Fallout mmo and they say there Tired of the Blandness of other mmo’s they want to change it make it worth it and fun Just a thought i am trying to Suport them even if its just Giving my So say here and there
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I can’t really pay for anything like this anyway, so I don’t have much of an opinion about the game. But your suggestions all sounded valid to me.
LOL. I knew right away where you were going with the Corbomite thing. Nice job pulling it off XD Yay for TOS!
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You know, I’m not much for online games, particularly because my system is old and decrepit and I need a new one badly, but also because the last one I played was WoW for 1 day. While I was trying to find a group to help me and my poor little orc out I got repeatedly shunned and ignored. But I digress, Star Trek Online looks to be just another basic MMORPG with Star Trek slapped on it. Now I was never a big fan of Star Trek, in fact during the Sci-Fi Wars of the 90s I held my lightsaber high and fought for the Rebel Alliance. But with my surprising interest in the recent movie plus how badly George Lucas screwed up the prequels, I have just recently started my voyage into Starfleet. So I won’t really buy it until I know one of two things.
1. That Star Trek really is my bag and I can fully become a fan.
2. That the game itself will actually improve over the years adding another story mode for Klingons, separate story options for both, etc.
Until then, I’ll look forward to meeting you all on the battlefield in Star Wars: TOR. (once I get a new computer)
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u can have one in your crew i do
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Sorry to say it Joe but the game is nothing more than a movie tie in game. Nothing more or less. MMORPGS are cash crops, they aren’t ment to be innovative or anything, they only exist to reap in cash from dumb kids ready to latch on the newest thing. You’ve been had, the game is just another corporate money making machine. They only way we could get the game you want (which is an awesome idea) is if you got a bunch of indie wannabe game programmers and put your heads together and made you’re own game.
Fun to see you an Spoony together though!
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I agree with everything Joe said and one group of indie game developers are already trying to do just that, with Star Trek: Excaliber. Take a look:
http://www.stexcalibur.com/
They say they will have explorable ship interiors and combat similar to the Bridge Commander game.
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The big problem is this game feels rushed. Lots of MMO’s are doing this these days, i wonder if its because the lack of budget. If thats the case then they shouldn’t make an mmo in the first place. Warhammer took its sweet time and was scraped once. It kept me interested for 2 months, i left cause im not a pvp fan. But for a pvp game to keep me interested for 2 months it did a good job. The open battles are insanely fun. Kotor online is taking its sweet time, and i wouldn’t want it any other way.
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Warhammer was never actually scrapped, the reason it changed developers was because after five years of delays the developers at the time had nothing to show but artwork and some screenshots. They hadn’t actually made any of the game mechanics. I had a chance to speak to the developers at the Gamesday after it was announced and when I asked them what spec they were looking at they told me a GeForce 3 Ultra! That was how long ago Warhammer Online has been in “development”, since the GeForce fucking 3! and when Gamesworkshop made the decision to change developers there was nothing to carry over.
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I was as excited as anyone for this game, and it is true. Cryptic has disappointed all of us with what this game did not give. I’ve almost worn out my free month after purchase of it, and I’m practically bored despite not even making Captain yet. Fortunately, the story missions are a little bit better later on in the game than they were available during the Beta, but it’s just as you said, kill squads, find loot, plant bombs. But the dev teams are saying they’ll improve by means of crew quarters as well as setting up First Officers for your ship. And if you noticed during the Beta, or when you create your officers, there was an actual voice option. Makes me wonder if that’s something they have yet to add in. I’ll remain on the game for a time and keep you posted on upcoming developments, Joe. Hopefully we’ll see some vast improvement and create an Armada worthy of having you lead it.
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Hey Joe, just letting you know that the report you requested on upcoming changes has been prepared for you.
http://forums.startrekonline.com/forumdisplay.php?f=158
The rest of the forum has dev responses touching on diplomacy and skill systems to name a few.
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An MMO game really needs to be epic at launch if it hopes to grab and audience and compete against WoW. First impressions say a lot I’m afraid.
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Cryptic is good at promising things will improve, and even better at keeping things the same patch after patch. They’ll fix bugs but content additions are anemic and design changes are non-existent, and any balance change, even small and straightfoward ones that entire forums are complaining about, will break as much as it fixes.
Cryptic only knows role-playing, they don’t know gameplay in general and they are totally clueless about PvP. I’m pretty sure that no Cryptic employee has ever que’d up for a battleground, at least none with any say in game design. Likewise I’m pretty sure that nobody with any genuine love for the Star Trek franchise was involved in this.
Champions Online is fine as a role-play game, it even excels in some ways–and that is where STO fails. It doesn’t even succeed at role-playing, in what Cryptic seems to like and is usually good at.
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All MMOs suck when they first come out.
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A bluff system would be epic:
dialogue options would contain (bluff) option
based on how often you’ve done specific objectives, you gain a reputation for dangerous manoeuvres, kamikazes (assuming death penalties), would be a modifier to see if the bluff works.
but bluffing in itself, even failed attempts would hurt chances of succes
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You two really made the review. I also had high opes for this game. Star Trek needs a game that truly makes us feel a part of a great universe.
>.> You sure your not an offspring to Kirk? lol
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im sure Star Wars TOR is gonns be alot better
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I dont see how the developers thought what they created represents Star trek, I played the beta for a little and quit that cause it was boring. It is like they didnt learn anything from earlier games, do research on why Warcraft is as popular as it is. It is because it feels like Warcraft.
I might not like WoW as much as before, but still they make the game as a whole feel right. STO you might as well made wing commander.
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It’s like the Final Fantasy Spirits Within movie. Just sticking the name on it isn’t going to make it sell. In fact, it’s more likely to hurt it. If the movie had just been called Spirits Within it would have done better. All they’re doing is alienating Star Trek Fans who are their target consumer, and non Star Trek fans aren’t going to be interested anyways.
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All right! I’ve been waiting for this review
! Great video!
It’s strange, Star Wars the Old Republic may have more variety when it comes to problem solving than STO. Like how you can talk the captain around to your side or kill him. If it’s anything like KOTOR then your stats, job, or class could give you different options. You’d think Star trek would be more likely to have that option where Star wars is simply go blow everything up.
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Great video, made me laugh a lot. Love the battle scene at the end had all my fave BoP moments in it. Such a shame about the game
I think if Knights of the old republic fails its over for the MMO genre in terms of innovation.
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i thought they were already working on the ship interiors and yes bridge commander is awesome and it would be great to have those features like that time the romulans ask you to lower your shields and you have to decide whether to do it or not
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Heh, I thought you were going for a joke about the respawns at the end there. Both ships would have been fine after about 15 seconds of death.
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Oh.. i had such high hopes for this game
WHY! why doesnt star trek online ever get a developer that is also a fan or atleast wants to make a great game.. they had such a great potential, so many resources and they blew it! maybe some of the options stated by Joe could be implemented this year but i doubt they will. If soul and heart is put in a game its impossible to not make money out of it especially from an well known developer like cryptic
.FUCK!
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Yeah, so glad I decided not to buy this game. I am hoping that The Old Republic will be good though. Great review!
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Joe, this was a great review! You described the games flaws and needed improvements with the typical AngryJoe thoroughness. Spoony was really funny. I hope you guys revisit the Admiral Joe and Spoontock saga again. I tried this MMO on a friend’s system, and I was also struck by the remarkable “sameness” I got from it.
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Having insomnia has it’s upsides. I didn’t think I’d see an update until I get out of work many hours from now.
Great job to you both! ^_^ Hopefully they’ll listen and fix things up.
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Huge disapointment, now just sell the rights to bioware, let tham make a cool rpg out of it maybe with some coop elements, and that could be a great game.
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hey joe you got a nice package any chance you go both ways
Nj here if you’re interested
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i hate to say it but the co engine would have made a better stargate game, 80-90% of that show was combat oriented
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It might have worked if they made the starting faction the Maquis instead. It would have made more sense to have a more ruff and tumble, shoot first style. You could have had literally any ship any species, and it would have made more sense to have a rookie captain.
Don’t know, just think they could have done a lot more with Maquis.
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I know right
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