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Why such a hate for Steam? I’ve been using it for years and have had no problems. Where else can you get $100′s worth of (indie!) games for $40? (I’m lookin’ at you, Potato Sack.) I have no problem with little restrictions such as Steam, as companies have a right to get the money that they earned.
I always find it laughable when designers try to lock down their software so hard. Even though they know that it only takes a pirate a few hours to completely bypass all of that security. I read the other day that steam says it loses more than 20% of new game sales to people pirating their games. If that is true, which i highly doubt, i have to say good. they deserve the million dollar hit to the wallet and so does anyone else who puts money before their product or customers. Microsoft, 2k, EA, UBI, Valve, codemasters and others you are all guilty of trying to bend over your customers and we are tired of it. you don’t understand most pirates would rather buy your game, but you leave us with the option of pay for something broken and spend hours with your CRAPPY, APATHETIC, USELESS support teams, or get the fixed version for free. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out ill come out with more hair still on my head by just “stealing” the game. I have even been known to bypass all that securom, starforce, and server authentication crap on games i legitimately own just because they work better.
As a closing thought i would like to point out that the biggest slap in the face you can get from any game is paying 60 bucks and getting screwed by bad programming or copy protection. case in point Bioshock PC. 2k games didn’t bother actually writing code or testing for compatibility when they ported it from xbox. so IF you could actually run the game, you were PLAGUED by blue screens, no audio, random crashes to desktop, frozen loading screens, frozen save screens, weird in game glitches caused by emulating a xbox gpu, sub par controls (at least from the xbox ver), broken autosaves, bad audio and visual stuttering, lockups when u tried to change ANY setting, and a patch that actually broke the game more. not to mention copy protection on top of all of that. I returned this game, got my money back, downloaded a pirated version with a crack and special patch and had NOT ONE problem!
oh and Valve/Steam i hope u deliver portal 2 and then go under. Seriously. I had to hire a lawyer and threaten legal action to get a $40 refund for a game your tier 2 tech support said was “broken” and “unfinished”. Ive never been treated like such a moron before! they actually told me to ask the developer for my money back!
this is email 32 of 44! (way past the tech support team by now) not including the ones i sent. it is also made explicitly clear in the next e-mail they wanted me to ask “Code-Masters” for a refund.
“A staff member has replied to your question:
Hello, Thank you for contacting Steam Support. Please check to make sure your game files are installed correctly. Right-click on” … “After Steam verifies the game cache, try running the game again. If you continue to experience this issue, please contact the game manufacturer for further support.”
I was never sold on Bioware (add a goddamn Securom, witch i have even more than obligatory cloud/protection shit), but my friends that had it never had any major problems with it (luck maybe?). Most of the people that pirate games(without buying them very soon after or right before and realising original version doesen’t work for bad-dvd or coppy protection ), wouldn’t have bought them as it is.
Besides if you have bought Settlers for equivalent of 60$ you’ve been conned, couse it costs 28€ (38€ for colectors) XD.
I know the coppy protection is annoying and crappy, but i stil don’t understand all this OUTRAGE over the coppy protection. I’d undersand if the had been 100$ and Ubisoft servers were impossible to get on, or you were bitcing about its problems. Like the learning curve (campagin level complexitiy jumps quite a lot between level 4 and 5 i think, especialy if you pay atention to “advisor’s” advices and the tutorial messages). But you know after I got over the inittial problems (when I bought game and came home, theur servers were on limited connectivity and thus some services were limited, +one of the patches on xp coused another bug in the campagin, that is circimvented by turning UI sounds to 0) the game was good. I personnaly am more satisfied with my purchase of Settlers 7 than my purchase of Starcraft 2 (I felt conned out of my money, game works, its fine crafted, balanced, but the gameplay feels almost exactly the same as if this was just an expansion of the 1998 game for tremendous amount of money).
“I personnaly am more satisfied with my purchase of Settlers 7 than my purchase of Starcraft 2 (I felt conned out of my money, game works, its fine crafted, balanced, but the gameplay feels almost exactly the same as if this was just an expansion of the 1998 game for tremendous amount of money). ”
Thank god I’m not the only one, Starcraft 2 is my worst purchase of the the year, paid 60 euros for something that feels inferior to older games like Age of Mythology,
but it has graphics so it must be awesome! *looks at the scores the game gets* /sigh
There just has to be a better way. If you connected once to the server then it should let you play so many times before having to “tag” back in that way you don’t lockout your customers from your product because you forgot to put a new slice of cheese in front of the mouse on a wheel powering your servers.
There just has to be a better way. If you connected once to the server then it should let you play so many times before having to “tag” back in that way you don’t lock your customers out from your product because you forgot to put a new slice of cheese in front of the mouse on a wheel powering your servers.
This (and almost any) form of DRM is retarded and mostly pointless, as others have pointed out it only really hits the people that actually buy your stuff, Can’t believe they expect us to keep paying them when they care more about money (that they should actually be losing by doing this) than the actual games.
I’d like to finish with a quote from Frictional Games’ blog:
“A developer should not design a game based on how it can be protected and doing so can only lead to bad things for our games (to avoid feeding potential flames; this is based on what we want to do with our games, not what we think of others who might do this)”
Hardly fair to the actual game made by BlueByte. This game is a real treat once you got over yourselves and let Ubi assrape your rights as a gamer. Fuck you, UBI! You killed your best PC game in years.
yeah here in aus people claim that you cannot connect to there crappy servers, when i found out you needed to have to be connected to ubisoft servers to play this i went right to piratebay,
Now id like to bring up something elce, EA Online Master Server. i mean i was Going to buy battlefield bad company 2 on pc when i watched the trailer showing off all the genuine default pc settings you would expect instead of some crapy ported game and Dedicated servers
.. now why do i have to connect to some stupid EA Online Server to then be able to see dedicated servers has no developer learnt from call of duty 4? how popular it was? i guess not… EA Online Server seems to take a excessive amounts of time to connect to even when i have a decent internet connection i have never seen a server list or login take so long
when will they remove these DRM’s and Master Servers they ruin what can be Great games :\
I had to watch a 20 second advertisement to watch i 5 second video… WHAT THE FUCK?!?!
WHAT POSSIBLY COULD HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THEIR MINDS TO THINK THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA TO DO.
I think the best company when it comes to DRM(almost, what do you want from me lol) is 2k games, at least with my copy of civ 4. only pop in a serial key(im not sure if it even has that) and play, no limit on how many computers you can install it on, and once its there, you can have it forever. Also good fan support too with fan mods included in the disc.
So we want something like they are doing, but they could have a serial key for my part too.
This is why a few publishers have given up on DRM beyond Steam Activation or similar (and yes you can play steam games offline, windows live ones too. battle.net not so much). They’ve finally caught on that only the people who pay for the games are affected, pirates aren’t even slowed down.
there is a diffirence between a steam game and a game with Steam-Play. Admittedly Dawn of War 2 seems to have dropped Steam-Play
eh Ubisoft wasn’t the first to implement this kind of protection. Dawn of War 2 (Relic/THQ) is twice as bad and older. It fails your current mission if you loose connection to either Windows Games Live or Steam. Admittedly if you buy this game thru steam, you land with Steam-Play as well. Therefore don’t buy it thru steam. Dawn of War 2 requires steam activation and Steam-Play no matter how you buy it. I really hate Steam-Play. I lose steam connection when playing single player than other such services.
This game is already cracked on the Private Torrent trackers I’m a member of. DRM Fail once again. It’s a shame really for those of you who actually purchased the game and can’t play it. My advice is download a crack and enjoy!
Yup. When it comes to invasive DRMs/copyprotections, cracking is a way to go. Developers are in no place to complain about anything crack related either as long as they keep insulting customers.
I mean, is Ubisoft really still at this? Werent the complains and noise around AC2 PC enough, didnt they see all the DRM does is cause trouble to gamers and to them? Not to mention loss of sales of those who boycott this DRM crap?
While were at it, I sill wait for THIS to happen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mehjj1udAag
Fuck this shit.
I game on my laptop anywhere so if I’m out and about I don’t always have access to a net connection.
Fuck you Ubisoft!
this is why i don’t buy anymore games from ubisoft folks
“Settlers of Catan – the board game the whole series was supossedly inspired by”
It’s not true. The first computer game was released in 1993 for the Amiga, that is two years before the board game was released. If something was inspired by something, it was the board game by the computer game. Nerd mode off
Wow Hell of a lot of hate just on the count of DRM. Hell of alot of games have keep online to keep playing nowdays. Even the Assasins greed. Not that I aprove this bs, but i get on with it. And never buy a game from steam bouse you’ll end up having TWO (2)! DRMs. Twice the chance something fails.
Game itself, well its Settlers. It’s faster. And I kept having been reminding of the board game with all its expansions (Settlers of Catan – the board game the whole series was supossedly inspired by) with its multiple possible ways to win. For those that aren’t familliar with the serries: it focuses on having most eficcient econnomy and logistics to support you army. Armed combat is really a small part of the game. Oh and its tehnicaly a stategy.
so i watched a ad that was longer then the clip….
Say no to DRM btw guys DRM has holes in it.. i mean they can use it to get your personal stuff on your computer.. thank you DRM!!
My mom plays this game all the time and I have never heard her complain. She seems to love it.
I dont know, personally, i dont play these kinds of games.
Just sat through a 30 second ad to get to a 5 second clip LOL
Nice, glad I don’t have that problem, I gave up on PC gaming quite some time ago.
Sucks for you, your missing out on one of the greatest product evolutions in gaming right now.
Steam by thy name.
Do you like easy seamless game management, great community features and dirt cheap games. Steam is revolutionizing the PC industry once again.
I wonder what will be 66-75% off this weekend?
Srsly Vegas Dave. Steam is amazing!!
Yes, Yes the DRM is annoying, but it is not going away especially as the internet reaches more and more people. I honestly never really care when I cannot play a game due DRM just reminds me to go outside.. then I realize fuck outside and jump on a game without this crap.
Though the game is awesome for those who love micro management economy games. The storyline and voice acting is playful as well the difficulty is gradual. I honestly recommend this game even over the DRM drawback, but the video does some up the frustration of the game at times.
Even if you buy it on Steam you still have to go through their DRM bullshit?
What the f***?
Why the fuck do I have to watch an commercial for half a minute, when the actual clip is only about 10 sec? And why do i have to watch it again and again and again until I hate this fucking Glee shit without ever seeing an episode?
Wow . . . this actually looks awfully familiar to me. Now why is it? Am I loosing my mind? No! It’s . . .
U-be-robbed. Where cracking is necessary even if you bought the game. Bravo!! This makes me sick … again.
Starcraft 2 requires an internet connection to play Multiplayer games, but it at least has an Offline mode so you can still actually play solo.
Apparently this game doesn’t….?
Ubisoft (more like Ubifail in this case) should be ashame of this kind of DRM they’re using.
Well Ubisoft got what deserved.
This kind of copy protection still blows my mind. Which sane person at Ubisoft thought it would be a good idea that players have to be connected to Ubisoft’s servers anytime to play their games? I can’t even believe that something like this is legal because this prevents you from playing your game, a game you have to pay the full price for I might add, on your laptop if you are somewhere else with no internet connection available. People should stop to buy any Ubisoft games as long as they use this kind of copy protection. Don’t get me wrong I am all for copy protection and company’s who get the money they deserve, but I still want to be the one who decides when to play a game and not some server somewhere in a basement.
Not only Ubisoft is doing this, Blizzard also requires an internet connection to play SC2 an that will probably hold true for Diablo 3.
That is not true. You can play SC2 single player without being connected to the internet. You just need the internet connection when you install it.
Any protection more complex than serial key is a waste of money. Even that serial key is. Stardock proved it. They dont put protection in their games, yet make money. What a suprise ey?
Tell me, how many games in recent past survived uncracked for a longer period of time? Two? …. Great. I´d like to know how much money they spend on these things, considering these Ubi nonsense servers, quite a lot I´d say.
Looks like a great game.
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Please try again later. LOL
As an Australian I have heard all the stories. The game is basically unplayable here.
This kind of DRM is a shame. Ubisoft and all gaming companies should know by now that DRM only effects people who have legitimately bought the game, because hackers and pirates inevitably find a way around it.
Sad but true xD.
Good one joe!