Posted on: Wednesday, March 21st, 2012
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Indoctrination Theory & Proof of ME3 Ending DLC
I’ve got a huge amount of responses regarding Mass Effect 3 Ending, maybe you are tired of talking about it, but I find myself engrossed. Chief among the explanations for the nonsensical ending is the “Indoctrination Theory” which explains away the ending by saying Shepard is hallucinating everything. I was severely skeptical so I poured myself into researching the topic and the following is what I’ve discovered!
Indoctrination Theory or no, I’m convinced Epilogue DLC is on its way. That’s either good or bad depending on your point of view.
if you people knew all the stuff we are planning you’d, we’ll – hold onto your copy of me3 forever.” -Michael Gamble's Twitter Account
From where I’m standing, I love the series so much, I hope it’s true, that it’s free, and that they never pull this shit again.
Big Thanks goes to many people for engaging in discussion with me and having such dedication to an enjoyable dissection of the game.
Do you believe in the Indoctrination Theory? Or do you think these are fans who as grasping at straws looking at Mass Effect’s Lore for any reason to throw out our current ending? If you do believe in the theory, do you think its right for a company to break off the real ending from a game and offer it as DLC (real or not) at a later date?
Big Thanks to these Sources:
ACAVYOS 21min Youtube Video Indoctrination Theory Explanation
Fan Complied Google Document
Bioware Social Network Indoctrination Theory Support Thread
Bioware Social Network Indoctrination Detractors Thread (Must be signed in)
Indoctrinated Shepard Artwork
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Shepard was never really indoctrinated. Yes he has a Prothean mind but that does not mean he is indoctrinated. He has only spoken to harbinger and Sovereign and was not affected because of Shepard’s resolve. Destroy the Reapers. there are a lot of questions still to be answered. This is all I know. Maybe all the answers will be in the upcoming Mass Effect 4 game which Shepard will not be in.
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You’re an idiot, your theories and complaints make far less sense than anything this game has ever touched. Quit complaining. Start making your own game if you want a shittier ending.
The Indoctrination theory should have been the masterful creative twist ending that would have brilliantly connected all 3 games and could have allowed Shepard that last epic choice. In a Universe so vast there is only one thing you can control; whether you are good or evil. The one and only thing through the entire series that you had complete control over; Paragon or Renegade. Should have would have could have.
I will not restate all the reasons why the indoctrination thoery is a plausable ending even after released dlc’s. There are plenty of videos and discussions that already do a wonderful job.
I will however leave this parting analogy. Indoctrination is like drinking, the alcohol being the Reaper tech and infulence A smaller person(small will power) drinking the same amount of alcohol as a larger person(large will power) in the same amount of time will produce different results. While everyone will pretty much be drunk(Indoctrinated), those that are smaller get drunk quicker than bigger guys in relation to blood alcohol levels that cops(VIs) like to test to determine if you are over the legal limit. Even bigger people drinker at a slower pace can eventually pass that limit. Sometimes there is a sobbering moment that can wake people up.
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Indoctrination theory is false. All the prothean VI detect indoctrination and shut down when they detect it (see for example the Thessia mission in ME3), the protheans left this stuff around specifically to resist the reapers. All of the VI work with Shepard just fine. The last time he interacts with one is after the assault on Cerberus, so the only possible time he could get indoctrinated in the entire trilogy is during combat on Earth.
And if he got indoctrinated on Earth, why did the reapers keep fighting him? All the way down to the laser beam and the last few enemies even after the laser. Saren never had to battle his way onto Sovereign, Illusive Man didn’t fight his way onto the Citadel. When you’re indoctrinated the reapers own you and want you around, they don’t try to kill you to keep you off their ships.
Sorry, the ending is just regular old unsatisfying, not mysterious or magical at all. Shepard can’t possibly have been indoctrinated at any point in the trilogy.
The indoctrination theory doesn’t say Shepard IS indoctrinated, but that the Reapers have been TRYING to indoctrinate Shepard for a long time, and are making a last attempt when Shepard is badly injured after Harbinger’s laser.
About the prothean VI: you are right, is does detect indoctrinated individuals and shuts down defensively. But Shepard is not indoctrinated, the Reapers are trying to indoctrinate him, which the VI is not programmed to detect.
There is a lot to be said about the final push to the teleport-thing, while Harbinger is firing, but that’s too much for a single comment. If you have enough time, I recommend watching Clevernoob’s three documentaries on the indoctrination theory, they are very thorough, and cover nearly every single scene starting at the hill, all the way to after you’ve made your decision, and even some extra info from before the ending.
If the indoctrination theory were true than that would be one of the best endings ever, like a first false end to fool the player then the true epic ending.
Knowing the bioware writers team they would be capable of writing something as fresh as this and it seems every piece of evidence points and fits into this.
This still doesn’t take the hole rush thing, they might have choose to simply cut the ending at stay with this false ending.
After watching this video I have to admit I’m starting to think indoctrination theory may be correct. However there is one remaining problem: At this point it looks like all the dlc have been released and while I have not played them all myself, none except for the extended cut and possibly leviathan do anything to add to the ending. At this point it is more likely that they would just make another game. If we go with that approach and accept the Shepard was knocked out by Harbinger’s beam I’m not really sure what the could do to make another decent game, being that we would start the next game with humanity’s fate just minutes from being decided. All in all, while it’s possible it just doesn’t seem like Bioware and EA would wait this long to finish things.
Are you joking?
“If the indoctrination theory were true than that would be one of the best endings ever, like a first false end to fool the player then the true epic ending.”
That’s nonsense.
if he IT ending is true it’s not even a proper ending… it’s a cheap cop-out. You do not really know what happens to the characters you cared about… it gives no satisfaction.
Also: Fresh? The “it was all i you mind” ending is one of the most cliché ever.
I do not care if the IT ending is true or not… whatever it is it does NOT rescue ME3 from having a shit ending… actually it makes it worse, if it’s true.
The Extended Cut gave you a vision of what happens in the future to your characters. It also tells you, albeit very subtle that Shepard and EDI were indoctrinated in the control and synthesis endings.
As for the indoctrination angle, consider that the game says nothing about shooting the tube will cause Shepard to resist indoctrination, wake up, and finish the fight. This was something fans made up.
The game tells a different story. Shepard shoots tube, Crucible fires, destroys Reapers, and you win the game. You weren’t sold a game without an ending.
Still think the game isn’t over and the only way the indoctrination angle could go down is by having Shepard wake up and finish the fight, without considering it may have happened slightly differently? You’ve been indoctrinated by the Reapers.
Indoctrination is something where you accept a belief without questioning or looking for alternatives. Considering you believe the indoctrination angle still only goes one way, you’ve been indoctrinated.