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Top 10 Reasons We Hate Mass Effect 3′s Ending
Angry Joe lists the Top 10 Reasons Why He Hates Mass Effect 3′s Ending and shares with you fan reaction and discussion on how the amazing sci-fi franchise from Bioware failed to deliver promises made.
What are your Top Reasons You Hated or even Liked the Ending? Grab a beer with Shepard and Garrus and leave your thoughts below!
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825 thoughts on “Top 10 Reasons We Hate Mass Effect 3′s Ending”
I do remember them saying that ME3 is the last appearence for Commander Shepard. I think I do see why they went with this ending, it could give them an excuse to do more DLC. I just hope we don’t have to pay for this DLC that is supposed to give us some answers about the ending of ME3.
What I find funny is that Bioware said that ME3 will only END Shepards strory, not the whole ME lore. HOW? Unless they will do A PREQUEL, which will…. suck… @SS!
Joe you are exactly right, these “endings” are a joke. there was no thought process in creating these endings. What pisses me off is that everything that was fought for in the past games and even the beginning to middle of Mass Effect 3 meant nothing to the endings of ME3. Bioware screwed us over on the endings, I am very disappointed with them for doing this to one of the greatest franchises of all time. I would have been happy with a great ending, even if Shepard had to die, as long as it provided some closure to the trilogy or even a happy ending where we are shown being rewarded for stopping the Reapers, but we didn’t get anything for the hard work we put into these games.
This is exactly how I feel. it hits every point exactly. Doesn’t matter who you save, meet, kill, all the endings are red, green or, blue.
I have a small ray of light: What if all the races died out? Its been proven atleast, in the series, that if everything sentient is wiped out, that something will return? Thus, wouldn’t it be kinda nice to realize you may have F***ed up the galaxy, but you claered the path for future races to live forever?
In other news: If it was me, I would’ve shot the God-child in the head in that three-way choice. Then took potshots at the Reapers with one hand, flippin’ them off with the other.
P.S.: OOps: forgot to break number nine:
Weren’t the Geth being controled by the Reapers? Atleast during the war?
All jokes aside, the big loophole I see… Reapers are God-Beasts. Most myths I have read have proven that gods can just go click, and *BOOM!* there is no life, and if this problem only happens lets say: every twenty-second cycle, a simple, “Okay everyone, start the cycle 20,000 years early!” would do the trick…
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Aside from those reasons, another reason I was pissed about the ending was the fact that, here’s a character (and for that matter, universe) that we’ve sunk nearly endless amounts of blood, sweat, tears and precious time into … and here comes Bioware and gives us 3 options where we all die off in them … seriously Bioware, WTF?
I fully agree with the indoctrination theory. However my main reason why I hated the ending….
I NEVER GOT TO GO INSIDE A FUCKING REAL REAPER AND SABOTAGE IT INTERNALLY AND FLY AWAY WHILE THE FUCKER EXPLODES LIKE A CITY BUSTER.
So I’ve been attempting to think about this in some non-typical ways. Everyone has been looking at this from a DLC-purchase tactic, or bad plot programming, or at best, an attempt at real-world indoctrination of players…
What good could it gain EA/Bioware to go through all this? I mean, after all these quotes of differentiation of endings, this multiplicity of similar video to wrap stuff up can NOT go unnoticed by QA. I posit the hope that this had to have been all planned for some reason, and that April 1st will possibly be a target date for some DLC release, or some method trigger a way to continue the game. I spent very little playtime using the first disk, and some DLC was already found hidden, so maybe there is more there? I am intrigued by the AI Child’s statement about having “more (choice) than you know”. It was quoted that there would be some unannounced voice commands, so has anyone tried saying anything unusual during the endgame sequence? Maybe I’m just being hopeful, but FFS, they HAD to know this would not fly well with the public.
Perhaps dont have any1 notice, is that any younger species in the galaxy for Reaper to harvest after ME 3 cycle if you choose control the reaper?
the fact that the only way to explain the ending is to think its all a dream, that is reason 1-10 as to why I hate the ending, its even worse with the leaked docs, EA will only get my money two more times and this is the final time. I want the game to be finished and then i’m done my ea boycott will be back in place.
What kind of bothers me is the dismissal of the fan’s displeasure as only so much whining at not getting a “sunshine and unicorns” ending. Seriously? Have they even played the game? Even ignoring everything after you get hit with Harbinger’s laser: Earth is on fire and at least half its population is gone, same for Palaven, Thessia, and likely Sur’Kesh. The Batarians are probably looking at less than 10% of their pre-war population, and although I never saw any mention of the Hanar/Drell homeworld conditon, it’s probably not doing too great either. Then there’s the Citadel. Refugees from all over the galaxy have been arriving all game, and we never hear what happened to them after Lucy (illusive man) decided to take the station on a joyride into reaper space (does it even have engines?). Maybe some of them made it off, but most would have been trapped on board. And the allied fleet you collected had to have taken massive losses in the fight at earth.
Tl;DR: (Almost) everybody’s dead, Dave. So, even if not a single soul dies after Harbinger gives you the tanning session of your life and Shepard kills all the reapers with space magic and lives happily ever after with his/her shipmate of choice… you’re still not looking at sunshine and unicorns here. ANY ending you can get (aside from time travel bull) will at best be bittersweet, with the galaxy having to recover from the nigh-extinction of several major races and heavy losses by all others AND the destruction of most of its economic infrastructure.
All hail the mighty angry joe!
Well, if you’re going to honestly try for a satisfying conclusion with that ending, that’s just plain stupid. If you’re going for a WTF ending that leaves people going WTF, then good job, though colossally poor judgement, considering. If this is exactly what you intended, that’s just disturbing.
Content aside (and yes, i’m a sucker for non-depressing endings), any designer worth half his salt will tell you a given piece needs character, or it won’t work. A so-called cookie-cutter ending would’ve actually worked just fine, given how well the whole game tells it’s story and invests you in it, no way anyone but the most anal would-be fartist would ever go “meh” about it. Rather, it’s no small feat in it’s own right that a 100+ hour series would so effectively betray it’s own character and jump the shark at it’s final 5 minutes, when you can pretty much see the home stretch without thinking too hard about it. You could almost say it takes true genius to pull that off, though the sheer stupidity necessary to actually think it a good idea is by no means less than a few orders of magnitude greater.
Why, though? Because it so effectively negates most people’s hopes for this conclusion? Well that could be part of it. It’s certainly not a nice thing to have, unless you’re masochistic. Sad or happy endings tend to require substance, regardless of what they give or take from you. In this one though, whatever there was, i must have missed it. What you get is a bunch of variables so far removed from everything you had invested yourself in, it seems like the story changed channels all of a sudden. You want to get back to your game, but no. It seems to have been hijacked.
As for the whole “this is art, can’t change it” thing, well, the actual definition of art (as it’s actually taught in art theory in college, i was there) is that of a means of communication. It doesn’t exist with just an emitter. And if the receiver rises up in outrage and lashes out, well, odds are something not right. Also on that subject, i can’t bring myself to believe this has been the intended result of the developers’ efforts after all the promises made. The DLC thing was likely intended all along, probably due to some profiteering ploy by EA, or something. It just doesn’t add up to end such a well made, and otherwise rock-solid piece of work on such a dysfunctional, frustrating, and ultimately lifeless note. So, you know, i’d think it more legitimate to change something about your art based on the demands of your audience rather than on the demands of your Jabba-the-Hutt publisher.
Just saying
Totally agree!!!
First of all, I’m going to state that I don’t like the ending in case there are any people who don’t want to listen to this message. Second, and contrary to what everyone else seems to believe in the last few posted messages, I didn’t want a ‘spoon-fed’ ending. Anyway, here’s a few simple reasons why the ending is bad (not the game, just the ending!):
1) I am — and would — have been all right with Shepard dieing; I only hoped mine would live. However, I do take the final gasp we see at the end as an insult. Bioware, or at least from what I know, are not going to be making a mass effect 4 about Shepard so that was not a true ending – so well done, they made a cliff hanger for a dlc, one that won’t be getting unless it’s free, otherwise I’ll just probably never buy anything from bioware or EA again.
2) The dlc – it’ll be just an add-on. I highly doubt it’ll change the game in an important way (it — can’t — won’t give players anymore endings, it will just explain what will happen); for example, we might just see Shepard in hosp. if she lived with crew around her and it’ll do so far off seen, looking out a window to see the ‘kid’ walking away. In any case, fans will still make up stories about the game even if Bioware’s dlc does turn out to be bad.
3) I have a personal vendetta against the kid at the end. Even the Illusive man you could tell him to f**k off. This game was supposed to be about dialogue options – that’s the whole reason I got into it, not because of the good gameplay or that it took place in the future! I know that most of you are inclined to say that this kid had the overall power, but if I had wanted to play a game where all I had to do was listen to someone then go kill stuff I would’ve played something simple like Halo, etc.
4) I love how I got there was no ending for Harbinger, the main antagonist, and how he died. In ME2, we saw him taking control of everything and yet in this one, I’m left a little confused as to who is the bad guy at the ending – is it the reapers or this kid? Who is this kid anyway? Yes, the crucible – but then, what’s the crucible? Who was the first to create it? I highly doubt they’ll be able to explain all this in one dlc.
Anyway, I’m done.
The final breathe is like the top spinning in the movie inception, did it stop spinning at the end or did he stay in limbo in order to be with his kids? Same with this ending did Shepard die or are there surrounding circumstances that makes him still alive, whatever the case may be.
DLC is irrelevant I hate EA for that reason they know they can capitalize on the gamers who want more of the game I say leave it to rest
The kid represents the past choices that you make in the game and the sacrifices you had to make in order to get where you got in the third game. Whether the kid is real or fake doesn’t matter it’s the sumbolism behind the kid that makes it a compelling story. The game developers had to make the kid emotionally attachable in order for you to feel sorry and realize how hard the journey has been so far.
The bad guy in the end could be you, if you decide to take over the reapers. Seeing how that choice was a blue or paragon suggests there could be more to the choice then what meets the eye. The fact that they don’t mention who created the crucible just goes to show that it is irrelevant who created it, it could have been the Reapers or a combination of the works of hundreds of past cycles. That just makes it that more mysterious
The fact that this game is filled with metaphors whether intentional or not. The fact that people have not picked up on them is quite scary actually, good story writing is filled with them. Since most didn’t pick up on it show people should have paid attention in English class a little more
Inserting a bunch of metaphors doesn’t make good literature, it still has to make sense in relation to the story as a whole.
Regarding the Crucibale….The Crucible has been creeted by humans(plus tursians,asari and other races) using prothen plans so I really don`t get it from where that god-child bullshit comes from.
HOW CAN YOU HATE THE ENDING WHEN IT HAS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=467pmIX-oZo&feature=player_embedded
Hello. I was directed to this video after I mentioned that I *liked* the ending.
I would like to state again, after watching it, that I disagree with almost every point made in the video.
Most of the points centre around the destruction and/or closure issues.
I LOVED the fact that none of the endings were what I wanted, or what the galaxy expected going in to this fight. I couldn’t stop the reapers and have everything go back to how it was before. It’s just “how it works”. It’s more or less how it works in real life, every single time you have a tough decision to make.
I’m not saying the ending was trying to teach us a life lesson, I’m just saying that I liked that aspect of it. I wanted to stop the reapers and save the galaxy. I wanted to continue the “cycle” and never worry about the reapers again. Well you know what? (said the god-child) That’s tough. That’s not how we do it. You’re a puny meaty human that I allowed to evolve. You play by my rules, so shut the fuck up and pick a colour.
Also: You die. You want to live? Sorry, not taking requests any more. You knew you were dead the minute you started playing this game.
Did anyone SERIOUSLY expect Shepard to survive ME3?
As for closure: Seriously? Going into the last battle, I was EXPECTING every single one of the main characters to be blown up. Why? Because every single part of their life, every loose end had been taken care of. That’s true for the ENTIRE galaxy. I fixed every loose end in the galaxy. The genophage, the rachni, the geth-quarian war, the quarian homeworld, all of it resolved. Does it matter that some of the endings fuck it all up? No! It doesn’t make my actions any less meaningful. I still managed to unite every single race in the fucking Milky Way bitches.
I’ll grant you one thing: It’s weird that the squad-mates were beamed up to the Normandy (or whatever it was that happened). I was honestly satisfied by the ending right before I saw that, thinking that they all got blown to shit by Harbinger’s beam at the end. I think they probably made it so that you KNOW your sacrifice saved all your buddies, but an explanation of “how” would be nice.
I’m biased as fuck here, but watching Joe’s video, most of the reasons sounded to me like “I don’t like this, so it doesn’t make sense”.
Has Mr. achilleas seen this?
http://angryjoeshow.com/2012/03/indoctrination-theory-proof-of-me3-ending-dlc/
I had heard of a few points of the indoctrination theory and didn’t really like it. Watching Joe’s video made a lot more sense, to be fair. It does seem a bit nitpicky on certain points, but all in all, yeah, I could buy it.
Yeah to bad for you there all going to die! Doesn’t matter, galaxy is screwed.
A lot of great thoughts out there, but the bottom line, this was the intended ending. The god child clearly stated Shepard was the first to make it that far and the system would no longer work because of that fact. All selections other than the green one where short term fixes that would not stop the cycle. It was about stopping the cycle. Shepard was a christian thing: live, die/resurrect and then save, IE Matrix style. Great game!
Hey everybody I am Nickarasu’ and posted the comment so please respond to it or give me your ideas you to Angry joe. And to help you look for it I’ll post it in this. To all Mass Effect fans out there who are reading this post please do not respond to what I am about to say in anger without contemplating my idea first. Now let me start off by saying I really enjoyed every aspect of the Mass Effect Franchise and I really enjoy Mass Effect 3 regardless of the ending. However, as Angry Joe has posted in the top 10 reasons we hate Mass Effect 3 ending video above the ending was a complete and utter abomination to the Mass Effect franchise. I will say this in some endings of movies or games or books it is okay to throw the fans off with questions like Bioware with Mass Effect 3 but when you have a source of entertainment and you can shape your own ending than you are writing formal resignation of the whole company. Here is where you all might get mad at me. I personally enjoy the synthesis ending. Although I wish my Shepard would live and grow old with Tail. The reason why I prefer that ending is because the way I see it, my Shepard already made a bridge that the Geth and Quarians as well as Edi and Joker can coexist if anything this change in DNA in organics as well as the Framework in Synthetics would further the coexistence and peace between each other through further ways of communication. Now don’t get wrong it’s the ending in general that needs to be revised to where you can see what happens after the release of energy. I personally believe that if the energy is released well at least the blue and green one it will not destroy solar systems like in the Arrival DLC in Mass Effect 2 dictates. The red energy will destroy all technology though. Ultimately when Bioware changes the ending with a new DLC I will be forced to obtain it because unfortunately I have been replaying the game since I bought it. So far five times completed. For some reason because of the ending I feel compelled to play it over and over. Anyway my last fit the game is when you achieve 100% readiness rating through multiplayer and then when turn off your console and turn it back on the next day or immediately you find the readiness rating at 99% or below. WTF!!!! After all that F’en hard work that damn readiness rating should stay same. What is your view on this? Thank you and good night.
Again going back to the notion that everyone wants the ending to be spoon feed to them. The whole premise leading up to those three choices. The combined effort of all three games conning down to 3 choices. Whichever you choose it doesn’t matter. Once you’ve chosen you know how your position toward the galaxy is. That only comes through playing all 3 game though. If you just decide to play the one I can see how you would expect a better ending
You are right on several points however even you have to admit that the ending left you at a pause. Like your intuition is saying something is not right. Well at least that is what the majority feels and myself. Sure I don’t expect a game with a trilogy to end perfect but it felt like Bioware left off something. Now it might be wishful thinking but I seriosly think the DLC that Bioware might/might not annouce in April is probably going to be the true ending. This goes back to the Indoctranation theory. Anyway I played and followed the Mass Effect franchise ever since they produced Mass Effect 1 and in doing so I truly feel like Bioware intinally left off something. What is your and everybody elses view on this.
I’m not sure I get what you’re saying. Are you suggesting that we should just make up our own ending since the game didn’t provide one? Or that the events on the Citadel won’t have any kind of effect on the rest of the galaxy, what with destroying FTL travel and possibly committing mass genocide? I’m sorry, but i just don’t get what you’re trying to get across here.
Not too make up your own ending but to imagine one, based on the 3 choices given and the cutscenes after them
Has he seen this:
http://angryjoeshow.com/2012/03/indoctrination-theory-proof-of-me3-ending-dlc/
C’mon people are you serious, did everyone think that the ending was going to be Shepard killing the Reapers and it’s all happily ever after? I agree on one hand that it would be nice to have that kind of ending, but Bioware never works like that.
I think if you didn’t play the game from the beginning ( beginning mean Mass Effect 1) then you won’t like this title, after spending countless hours talking to each squad mate in every game and learning thier history and background you get an emotional attachment too them such as the characters of a book or movie. So to see the game finally come to an end, any end is relief in itself to see the final accomplishments of Shepard come to pass. That was one of my emotional feelings;
The other emotional feeling was that there had to be a deeper meaning behind all the choices, seeing that the choice to kill the reapers was in red (the glowing red conduit) and on the right made me think twice about the whole situation. Wasnt it the entite goal of three seperate games to bring the Reapers down?Sure enough people have theorised their own opinion about Shepard being indoctrinated.
But that’s all part of the mistery about. Just like how Bioware decided not to show quarian faces throughout the whole serious. This leads gamers to use their imagination to fill in the gaps of what they might look like. Just like the ending it’s left to our imagination to fill in the gaps. Was the solider at the end with the N7 dog tags Shepard? Was the planet the Joker landed on a primitive form of earth left to be repopulated or a new earth waiting to be started? Was the stargazer at the end of the credits just telling the boy a story before bedtime? Was Shepard actually in the citidal or was he knocked unconscious and dreamt the whole thing?
I hope Bioware doesn’t come up with a “new ending” they created the game so they get to dictate how it ends. And if modern gamers don’t have the imagination to contiplate thier own ideas of what happened and have to be spoon feed the ending, then I feel sorry for you. I for one am glad that it ended this way, an ending that will leave me thinking about the game for days to come, trying to figure out an answer. That ladies and gentlemen is true story writing
-Ian
I agree completely
Bioware can make epilogues though. Just look at Dragon Age. Not only does the final fight finish differently depending on (some) choices, but once the game ends you have pages and pages of text telling you what happens in the world once everything is over. It isn’t much, just some simple lines, but it helps give some sense of closure to the events of the game.
http://angryjoeshow.com/2012/03/indoctrination-theory-proof-of-me3-ending-dlc/
Ian, if u finished the entire series in 24 mins, i wouldn’t blame u for allowing such ending.
In fact, all the player gone through 3 series accumulated 90mins – 100 mins & expect to have SATISFY ending not necessary a HAPPY ENDING.
Try to image if Starwar 3 & 6 have such ending, what will happen to George Lucas?
All you stated the outcome leave you thinking about the game is future or possible DLC, Unfortunately Bioware stated this is the end of Mass Effect Trilogy.
sry not min is 90-100 HRS
I think you’re missing the point. The problem isn’t the lack of a happy ending, it’s that in the last few minutes you’re introduced to a NEW and extremely important character (bad bad bad thing to do overall) who basically negates everything that’s been accomplished so far. Overall I felt it was very much a deus ex machina ending, where a new character is abruptly introduced to solve every problem despite everything that has happened beforehand.
Not to mention the extreme amount of plot holes, lack of choices, etc, etc. With a game like Mass Effect, you shouldn’t be left with all of these open-ended questions when for the past 2.8 games the lore has had such a huge impact on everything.
NOT TO MENTION WE WERE TOLD EVERYTHING WOULD BE ANSWERED.
If they make us pay for DLC to answer all the questions they promised would be answered, Bioware/EA may just be the douchiest company of all time and can go **** itself.
Anyone notice that Mass Effect was a giant bible allegory? starting off with how Shepard was on Eden Prime where he gained knowledge of the reapers. He then dies and is resurrected in the Lazarus project. He then continues to go around and do the impossible by uniting all of the different races including the geth which some could say represent demons…. then Shepard goes on to sacrifice himself to save everyone with absolutely no other option to survive (gay as hell). Now I am Jewish and I thought all of this allegory stuff was fine. It was subtle, ME was a great series (until the end), and many can just say its all speculation………… until they refer to Shepard as “The Shepard”. That ruined all subtlety. nonetheless, the game would have been better if I just turned it off right as Anderson died…. Fuck Bioware…
It might interest you to know what really happened at Bioware to allow ME3 to be what it is. If so, please read on.
After the succesful release of ME2 the burnt-out devteam, not knowing how the hell to top that and live up to all expectations, desperately needed stressrelief and creativity.
A few of them, who were actually close friends, ended up trying some DMT together and had an actual encounter with the supreme being.
After the initial shock and awe of how little they knew, there was a staff meeting and all agreed to f*ck the original ending and focus on explaining what they saw.
The supreme being saw Mass Effect 3, smiled, and let humanity survive another cycle. Maybe next time…
Holy crap I’m glad I didn’t buy this game. My wife bought me part two but I didn’t want to play it out of order so I was going to wait for part one first. Now I’m gonna sell part one and act like the series never existed. I didn’t like the little bit I played of part two. If it wasn’t so scratched I’d try to sell it. Even for five dollars. What is becoming of games Joe. Is it all about the money. At least we still have company’s like Netherrealm and very few others. Continue the great work joe.
sucks for you
Yes, yes it does
For me the game has several defects: it’s very, very short with very few missions and not secondary missions, because I refuse to consider the “searching things alla over the galaxy” a mission. Also you con walk around only on the citadel, there are very few options of dialogues and the “customization” of weapons suks. But yesterday i considered it a very good game that I loved… I said yesterday because today I finished it. Now I have in mind only that orrible ending! I spent hours gathering every battle assets and I only see in my fleet humans, turians, asari, and quarians! Where are the geths with their 800 points, or the mercenaries? Also on the ground, where are the rachni, or, again, the geths, the elcors, or the carachters? And, seriously the last battle in the game consists in defending stupid missles and running like an idiot? But the worst is coming… that annoying kid! WHY? Why bioware decided to ruin three games like this? I espected a simple ending like one where you destroy the reapers, or, like in Mass Effect 2, you fail and the reapers destroy the galaxy. But most of all I wanted and ending that makes sense, that reflects your choices and isn’t so stupid, senseless, disturbing and insulting! I wanted an ENDING!
To all Mass Effect fans out there who are reading this post please do not respond to what I am about to say in anger without contemplating my idea first. Now let me start off by saying I really enjoyed every aspect of the Mass Effect Franchise and I really enjoy Mass Effect 3 regardless of the ending. However, as Angry Joe has posted in the top 10 reasons we hate Mass Effect 3 ending video above the ending was a complete and utter abomination to the Mass Effect franchise. I will say this in some endings of movies or games or books it is okay to throw the fans off with questions like Bioware with Mass Effect 3 but when you have a source of entertainment and you can shape your own ending than you are writing formal resignation of the whole company. Here is where you all might get mad at me. I personally enjoy the synthesis ending. Although I wish my Shepard would live and grow old with Tail. The reason why I prefer that ending is because the way I see it, my Shepard already made a bridge that the Geth and Quarians as well as Edi and Joker can coexist if anything this change in DNA in organics as well as the Framework in Synthetics would further the coexistence and peace between each other through further ways of communication. Now don’t get wrong it’s the ending in general that needs to be revised to where you can see what happens after the release of energy. I personally believe that if the energy is released well at least the blue and green one it will not destroy solar systems like in the Arrival DLC in Mass Effect 2 dictates. The red energy will destroy all technology though. Ultimately when Bioware changes the ending with a new DLC I will be forced to obtain it because unfortunately I have been replaying the game since I bought it. So far five times completed. For some reason because of the ending I feel compelled to play it over and over. Anyway my last fit the game is when you achieve 100% readiness rating through multiplayer and then when turn off your console and turn it back on the next day or immediately you find the readiness rating at 99% or below. WTF!!!! After all that F’en hard work that damn readiness rating should stay same. What is your view on this? Thank you and good night.
I didn’t really care for the synthesis ending because it feels too much like I’m raping all sentient life and re-writing them the way I and/or the Conduit wanted them to be, completely destroying the whole “The defining trait of sentient life is the ability to choose” theme Mass Effect has had going.
Forced Multiplayer only get BEST ENDING which just 22 seconds explain Shepard alive but is he indoctrinated? If yes, perhap we know Bioware knows how to kill it own product such as Dragon age 2 & Mass Effect 3.
Bad news for RENEGADE Players, that they will lose some WAR ASSET which add up can be quite substantial which thank to the Bioware offer player “CHOICES” of which only benefit to PARAGON Players. Conclusion why they still want to give such “CHOICES”?
BTW i love the starwar scene & hope the actual ending will be like Star war 6: the empire fall.
the thing I don’t like in the ending is: whatever Shepard chooses, why the FUCK he/she sees Joker and LIARA? dont get me wrong, i love Liara but the point is my love interest is TALI. wtf? i can get why Joker (he’s from the beginning of ME1) but Liara? if it’s just a flashback of long-time friends, why Liara and not Garrus or Tali or even Wrex (he survived in my save) or someone else? i love Liara but my love interest is TALI!!!!!! just my opinion
Well, would you want your love interest and Joker to be stranded on some planet alone? Think about it…
In addition to all the reasons listed in this video, I’m very irritated at the lack of any inclusion of Harbinger. Any of the “revelations” brought on by the “God-kid” at the end of the game would have been much better presented in a 1 on 1 between Shepard and Harbinger. It’s what I was waiting for at least. In this game it’s like Harbinger didn’t even exist.
Im unable to download DLC for my xbox. Is this the future of gaming? Offline players like myself left with bare husks of games in their hands?? All DLC can go straight to hell!
I didn’t like the idea at first either, but I don’t mind it now. As long as I don’t have to be an Xbox live gold member in order to buy it that is.
Man, you explained things perfectly. But did you read this?
http://pastebin.com/n5mgH9Lw
If this is a true leak than everything we feared is pure truth. Bioware wants to sell us the ME3′s ending as a DLC. They wanted to do so from the very beginning, it’s not something they decided to do when they heard the fans’ rage.
And there’s another thing: the 3 ME3′s endings are so similar one to each other because EA wants to recycle some ME characters (including Shepard) in the next game: Space Shift. So the main storyline must satisfy some precise parameters and can’t branch too much. Shepard must die the Catalyst (aka the God Child) must possess him then this new creature must be resurrected during the “EndingFix” DLC (which should be called “Terminator”). After that this new character, a fusion between Shepard, the Catalyst and EDI called “Advent”, should become the main character of Mass Shift.
Real multiple endings, with real differencies between the one and the other, could have been possible only if the Mass Effect saga would have ended with ME3. If that was the case the developers would’nt have been concerned with the problems of carrying through the consequences of your actions in the next game and could have given the player REAL FREEDOM to shape the ending. But it was chosen otherwise due to corporate orders (read-> EA wants more money out of the ME brand).
Do we want this?
I just finished Mass Effect 3 and I thought the ending was pretty good actually.
And did u also read the The Indoctrination Theory soo it would actually make sense?
I wonder if they had this planned from the beginning
I would put money on it. Bioware knows what they are doing.
…hmmmm
*cough* Destroy technology ending, technically Tali and all the quarians should be dead. Their suits use technology to keep them alive! *cough*
Thie ending was nothing but a left wing nut job ending. The endings all do the same thing they all throw the galaxy into a new dark ages. No tech. Shepard just became the largest mass killer in history. He kill evey man, woman, and alien in the fleet and in the systems with the relays. I want the happy ending. Ultamit paragon Shep and Garus on the beech with the women they love shooting and targets in the water still trying to outdo each other. Renegade ending Shep s tells the council it at over the creaters will be coming we must prepare. And the last ending ultimate fail.
I felt betrayed by the ending of ME3 and Bioware who I have always given the highest paraise for making the very best RPG games ever. I really hope they fix this. I think they were so inot drawing the shooter crowd and getting multi player online action the really dropped the ball and let us down.
I hate the secret ending. First off, who are the people, and we saw Shepard take a breath, which proves he is still in the living, while they talk as if he/she is dead, or a mere legend. Also, why does Shepard listen to the leader of the reavers!?
Joe is a good guy, BUT I don’t agree on several points. Keep the sad endign fuck the rainbow unicorn ending.
There is no twists Joe… Seriously.
It dosn’t necessarily need to be a happy ending, just something more like this:
http://games.on.net/sspopup.php?type=a&app=7843&image=2012-03-23/QR3lS.jpg
why can’t we have a choice of happy ending or not, where supposed to have choices
I agree with you, we must have choise, but also i think Lars is right, there must be only bad endings, i mean, this is it, this is the end, there won’t be Mass Effect 4 (i hope, or at least with Shepard), and to really show us that’s Bioware is dead serious about ending of trilogy, they must give us only straight endings, not some bullshit like: Shepard’s story will continue in overpiced DLC or knock-offs and prequeals. I think they must give us a great varity of endings, but with the one same thing, Shepard dies.
And just why can’t we have a good ending where shepard lives out his or her life out with his friends and family. Literally the only reason shepard “has to die” is because of the contrived device at the ending. He’s proven the kid wrong – synthetic life doesn’t have to wipe out organic life. Whats wrong with the reapers shutting down and showing an end credits where your team just lives their lives?
[...] I hate a game telling me how I have to play and whether it’s GW2 or SWTOR or WOW, I still have to pick a class and tab or free target, kill then loot. Not seeing a difference in the final product, kind of like the Mass Effect 3 ending. [...]
this ending must have been made buy retarded monkeys
I agree, this video embodies all of the problems i have with this ending, coming from someone who has had 6 different characters ready to play mass effect 3. Im extremely dissapointed by the lack of customized endings and the fact that i got EVERY war asset (had 6200 with 100% readiness) and i still got this piss poor ending. Well hopefully if they do the worst and DLC the ending it BETTER be free.
You are right! The only reason there is a 50000 year cleansing cycle is because the reapers took it upon themselves to create and enforce it. And if synthetics “always destroy their creators” aren’t the reapers reinforcing this buy virtue of, oh I don’t know, their entire existance and purpose?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqgRP5_YKu0&feature=related this guys a dick on this ign thing joe is better then ign
His reasoning is absolutely retarded; if you don’t like something about a game don’t go contacting them and tell them you didn’t just accept it because its their game. NO, this is a consumer based market and if you don’t like something you speak up.
thats what i was thinking
oh yeah whatch this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz8_j-ebfaI its pretty funny
True, but a company like bioware invests a ton of money in design and production….a ton. They have to make money, and it is thier porogative to do what ever they want in order to do so. DLC accomplishes this. And, man, just be glad that the real ending is most likely locked on the disc. And for the record, the ending to Battlstar Galactica was probably the worst, most unfitting ending to any story in the history of television. Mass Effect 3 isn’t even in the same league as that shit show ending.
Did you watch the ending to Stargate Universe?
I don’t mind bitter sweet endings, and they do work, but seriously, wtf was this? Look at Halo 3, nobody complained about that bitter sweet ending, and it really worked. It showed what was loss, but what was left, and you felt like you really won your fight against that apparently unstoppable foe.
I completely agree with everything you said, especially regarding the whole “synthetics will always destroy organics thing”. I mean, seriously, Shepard JUST PROVED THAT THEORY WRONG! Not just that, but Sovereign says something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!
Also, regarding the whole Adam and Eve ending, what’s worse is that Liara is the only viable solution to that problem, because nobody else can breed with each other (unless you chose synthesis or have Ashley, of course). Even so, she was WITH ME during the final wave.
I think the ending was written by other people not related to the mass effect series.Because this is indeed quite ridiculous then again..maybe the other two games were ridiculous as well maybe not as ridiculous but ridiculous non the less.I didn’t have any pleasure from this ending I do know that.Im also happy that staggering towards those beams for the first time (i had no idea there were three choices i just staggered right into the central beam) that i turned around and shot the little fucker several times.Very good calls though Bioware should get spanked for this.And who on earth is in control of these reviews that give this a bloody perfect score? The critics must have been bought by EA i see no other option no way this game deserved a perfect score.
Just saw this on the indoctrination video comments. So legit.
http://games.on.net/sspopup.php?type=a&app=7843&image=2012-03-23/QR3lS.jpg
I think the top 10 video has some good points on closure. but as far as your complaints on the normandy trying to escape the blast, joker exiting a shuttle with liara and or tali or the rest of your squad, the god child and how you think he created the reapers just cause they said it. while the endings play out the same there is one small clip that seperates the right ending from the wrong two choices.
when they show him taking a breath it is him being released from his indoctrinated state. all the events that take place after the blast is a “familiar” representation of the mental battle he is fighting against the indoctrination. the god child is shepards guilt and pent up anxiety about his task to save the universe, knowing he cant save everyone. harbinger is using this as a tool to break him down. and when you choose anything but the option to destroy the repears (and why wouldnt you? it was the point of the whole fuckin game) its shows shepards eyes falling into a recessed husk like blue light. the final stages of the indoctrination. a theme that was rooted back in me1. to me its absolutely incredible how much sense the ending makes, and how little plot holes their are. the reapers tell us time and again that we couldnt comprehend their being everything after the blast is harbinger communicating a purpose for the cycle in a way that shepard understands while allowing room for sympathy, which you had obviously if you choose not to destroy the reapers. i mean in those last 10 minutes bioware managed to mind fuck you into believing everything put right in your face and got you to save the reapers. bioware for the win.
i do agree that this is definitely an interesting opinion which cannot really be argued against, but still it doesn’t really make the end fulfilling for me. even if the whole god-kid thing was just a tactic of the reapers, why on earth did you have to kill the geth and all synthetic life forms (like EDI for example) as well? they were like the characters that were the most adorable in the game, if only for the reason that they NEVER DID ANYTHING WRONG. that’s the main reason why destroying the reapers wasn’t my first choice. also, even if yours was the correct interpretation of the ending, why would they put it in a way that 1% at max of all players could understand correctly wheras the other 99% remain unsatisfied? they must’ve known that something like this discussion would be the result, it can’t possibly be true that everyone involved in the storywriting sat on a table, looked at this and said “hell yeah, THAT is a masterpiece”. the more i think about this game, the more frustrated i get about all the hours of joyful playing i put in it just to be that disappointed because of the last 10 minutes
You mean Bioware lied about their development in order to have bigger marketing appeal? What a shocker.
Remember, ME2 even had them make statements saying “we want to bring in more RPG elements into the next installment.” Yeah. That didn’t happen, and then we got $10 day 1 DLC, along with more lies.
Starting to notice a pattern here?
Hahahaha……… Your video and remarks on Mass Effect 3 are by far the most insightful yet hillarious I’ve ever seen on any review. Now enough stroking your ego.
I have another observation…….. When I was advaning down that open ….whatever it was… towards the beam, I was careful. I stuck to the far right and just sprinted. Liara and Garrus where right behind me. We didn’t even come close to getting hit by the Harbinger beam. But whatever, I accept that I was knocked out by shrapnel. What bothers me is that Liara was my love interest, I mean how could a guy not love a woman who spent the better part of TWO YEARS actively involved in your reconstruction. In any event, is Bioware trying to tell me that a woman with this level of loyalty (who I hand picked for the final advance because of her bravery), sees the love of her life laying on the battlefield, knocked out, prostrate and vulnerable, comletely exposed out in the open and decides to herself “fuck it, I’m bugging out”?
She then radios joker, who is busy dodging Reapers in orbit, and orders him to get the her the hell out of there. And to add insult to injury, as you mentioned, Joker takes it upon nimself to completely abandon his mission without thought, fly down into the middle of a massive fire fight, pick up Liara and not even ask what the fuck just happened!? Next they all just decide, fuck this, we are going to rack out down stream from yoda and wait for this mess to blow over. Oh yeah, lets have sex, theres lots of time now.
I personally think this was not the intended ending and is just a deliberate deception being actioned in order to gain media attention and promote DLC.
I sincerely hope BioWare revises the ending, and free of charge. I might buy it for a few bucks, but any more than $5 would be insulting.
Sometimes I think it was all their “master plan” to start releasing DLC for eager fans, but even so, you have to look at their original promises. They failed on all of them that related to the ending. This is false advertising.
Anyone else think that this games ending complete,y contradicts everything mass effect is about?
Yes, completely. And thats the major problem with it. The end of the series just discard everything you did with your previous 100 hours of gameplay and throws it to the garbage can…