Posted on: Thursday, March 14th, 2013
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Games Workshop Wants More Games
Games Workshop, known for its aggressive protection of its intellectual property, has changed its stance on video games.
The Warhammer license has been one of the most fiercely guarded properties to be made, with Games Workshop actively making sure that online retailers can’t use Games Workshop created photos of models and miniatures to sell their products, and keeping a tight hold on who is allowed to work on the license to begin with. Lately though the grip has been loosening as Slitherine Software announces a new turn based Warhammer 40k game, while Games Workshop has announced earlier this week that Zattikka would create a tactical free-to-play game set in the 40k Universe.
As a huge fan of the Warhammer universe, both 40k and Fantasy settings, I am certainly excited at the prospect of seeing more games, and different styles of games set within that universe. It also makes me hopeful that we will one day see a proper RPG Ala the Witcher or Inquisitor perhaps something a little dark that touches the soul set within either universe, hint hint Games Workshop. With these latest announcements, the total studios working on Warhammer related games has climbed to three, and with the updated article over at GamesIndustry.biz giving the proceeding quote, I am hopeful the number will rise in the near future.
“The days of monolithic Warhammer or Warhammer 40,000 licenses on all platforms are behind us,” the representative said. “In the future, games based on our properties will be platform and subject specic, which is great news as it means there are far more opportunities than before.”
So tell us, do you want to take up the hammer of war, and if so what would you most want to see done as a videogame set within the Warhammer Universe?
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I would love to see a remake of Chaos Gate. One of my Favourite Turn based strategy games ever glitches and all.
i want a imperial guard game that is gritty and beats the shit out of you
I’d play that. Not playing a omgwtfbbq powerful Space Marine, but a fraile IG soldier on the front lines
While this is a major step forward, it should be noted that Games Workshop is still evil, with business practices that would rival EA in their idiocy.
A link for thought… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnPpfs120DA
That said, I would still love to see some new Warhammer Fantasy and 40k games. Im still hoping that they make a sequel to Space Marine, with a longer campaign more diverse enemies and environments. Also, they should totally put Captain Tidus in the Death Watch and add split screen Coop. Who’s with me?
The practices remind me more of Capcom then Ea. EA is an asshole. Capcom is a pawn store owner who rips you off any chance he gets and thats what GW has been.
Space Marine + Sequel + co-op = THE BEST LICENSED GAME EVER MADE! Though I would like someone to explain to me the Chaos Marines exploded when killed in that game, it was always weird to me
when bolt shells enter the body they explode inside the person usually leaving them really f’d up.
Red, I think that’s an interesting idea; that being being placed into the Death Watch. I was concerned while playing Space Marines, as it was hugging the same ‘premise’ as Graham McNeill’s Ultramarine’s stories with Uriel Ventris. I saw/heard a lot of him through Captain Titus, and the same thing happened in the end. I enjoyed the game, but was concerned that they seemed to miss a few oppritunities with it. I know that the Astartes are super human, but they still do have personalities, albiet them a bit dry. I had issue with Titus’s dry/monotone voice overs a lot of the time. With 40k alone, there are dozens of game types to be made, and they all SHOULD be! But you’ve got to do it right with Games Work Shop materials, cutting corners could be fatal with them. And Darren’s list is all great ideas (you can smell Jurgen from way over HERE!), Cain should be a table top piece as well… A survival horror Space Hulk… *shutters* Totally doable and believable, even with the Astartes as the Tyranids can cut through terminator armor.
*crosses fingers and very anxious*
There are a few types of games I think could have some potential
1. I’d love a mystery style game where you’re an Inquisitor or Arbitrator busting cultists and xenos collaborators.
2. A game built like Space Marine but centering on Ciaphas Cain (the only Commissar to kill a mutated space Hitler by sending him over the edge of a dam with a firm kick up the arse) would be awesome. Can you imagine if Sandy Mitchel was involved in writing the dialogue and it had Cain’s sarcastic thoughts narrating key moments?
3. A starfighter/air combat game taking elements from Aeronautica I’d love to take control of a Hellblade interceptor and shoot down a few Imperial Thunderbolts.
4. A PC version of Battlefleet Gothic
5. Space Hulk – it could be everything Colonial Marines promised and more!
Would anyone else like to see a Necromunda RPG? Where you play as your gang leader, and then manage your gang and territory and then the combat is turnbased in an XCOM like style?
would love to sessee more games like Space Marine, just with other races.
it will be cool if the game will be something like planetside 2. You know a thousand players in a game ,vehicles,customization.That will be AWESOME
What I’d like to see?
A game based around the vehicles in the 40K universe. Not necessarily Titans, but everything else.
Careening around the battlefield in an Ork Trukk while da Boyz shoot rokkits out da back.
Or driving an Imperial Baneblade, taking down vast swathes of enemy infantry while simultaenously smashing away takings with the sponson lascannons.
Or sniping enemy heavy armor from afar with a venerable Vanquisher Leman Russ.
Or bursting through rubble and deploy a squad of terminators from a Land Raider…
Oh yes, there is so much potential in the vehicles alone in 40k to make me drool, not to mention make an excellent game both single and multi…
Okay, first off, ‘kudos’ go to Dean123456 for outlaying all of that out. Definately a Warhammer Fan, and wonderfully done. I like’m both too, but find 40k more to my specifics. Not sure why, but it’s a tough call between the two.
I was very concerned and saddened when THQ annouced it’s finanical situation and was looking for buyers, I knew that was a VERY bad sign… I almost literally cried when I heard THQ’s downfall, as they were about the only gaming company making Warhammer Games anymore, and I loved the DoW games for the PC; they were awesome! Not to mention what was sure to be an interesting ‘genre specific cult game’ Dark Millenium was changed from the MMO it was supposed to be… Feth it all to The Eye and back… -.-
I would love to see more Warhammer games, both Fantasy and 40k, but under ONE condition… They must be TRUE to both Games Workshop and The Black Library Lore… I do not want to see ‘made for retail and quantity games’, just to put something out there… Both genres allow for epic RTS, RPG, MMO, Strategy, Card Combat, Detective/Norie, Action, Adventure style games, and more… But they must be true to what they are. Don’t mess with fans of these titles and lore, they will NEVER forgive you if you wrong them.
One must remember, that the Emperor is always watching, and to wrong Him on Terra, is a mistake you make only once. Forward for Terra, common you dogs!
“Definately a Warhammer Fan, and wonderfully done. I like’m both too, but find 40k more to my specifics. Not sure why”
Perhaps story wise you find 40k more exciting? I Love Playing 40k and Fantasy, but I think my love for fantasy started during my first game of fantasy.
First heres my first game of 40k.
Turns 1-5: We shot each other. It was a blast I didn’t have to worry much about tactics beyond getting into a good position then choosing wisely (or unwisely) who to prioritise my shooting at!
Now, heres my first game of Fantasy.
Dwarfs (me) vs orcs and goblins
I Was playing with a GW army just to try fantasy. How surprised I was to discover I LOVED it.
Turn 1: The two armies advance, my Cannon opened fire and took a dozen GreenSkins. My opponents Shaman summoned a giant foot and crushed 5 proud Dwarfs
Turn 2: Hilarity and disaster strike! My cannon malfunctioned and exploded taking the crew with it. Meanwhile his Shaman EXPLODED after miscasting a spell and taking his body guard with him. The two army bulks are near each other and in charging range.
Turn 3: A full charge from the orcs and goblins. They are met by a stout Dwarven line a bloody melee ensures
Turn 4: The Melee is going back and forth, in a gamble to win the fight my Dwarf Thane challenges the warboss to a 1 on 1 duel. His arm and rune weapon prove true where he bests the Warboss.
Turn 5: The orc army is dead or in retreat.
Dwarven Victory.
I will always remember that game.
Warhammer 40k and fantasy are epic master works with MOST novels and lore. Noticable exceptions are Matt Wards works and C.S Goto. If you want a great story your bound to find it in the warhammer universe. Now thats nice but whats the game like?
In both Warhammer 40k and Warhammer Fantasy you are playing a Table Top Game with your own army from over 14 different factions and while the rules sound complicated its actually easy to learn PROVIDED YOU HAVE NICE OPPONENTS willing to help you with your first few games.
Now,while fighting with awesome cool armies sounds fun, how much does it cost? In Warhammer 40k and fantasy you actually have to build and paint the models yourself and personalise your army. As a result purchasing the GW glue and paint you need can cost you towards the $50 margin. Your starting army will cost you roughly $150 and the rulebook is $90, finally your armies “Codex” which has all the rules for your army is $50. If your following me that means to start warhammer you’re gona need $350-surely theres a better way!
You know what. There is. You can buy either the “Dark Vengence” (Warhammer 40k) or the “Island of Blood” (Warhammer Fantasy) kits for $130. These Kits come with the $90 rulebook and TWO decent starting armies. Just factor in a codex and paint and you’re at $250. Its $100 cheaper and you get TWO armies.
Now, with this in mind if you wanted to start both gaming systems you’d need $500. So i’m going to assume if you’re gona start warhammer you’re only going to pick one army. Now, the question is, which is better?
I’m going to push you to Warhammer Fantasy for two reasons.
#1 It is a more tactical game and rewards you for out maneuvuring your oponnent. In Warhammer 40k strategy does play a big role-for the first two turns. Afterwards its all the luck of the dice and choosing wisely who you’re going to shoot. Warhammer Fantasy will continue to reward you for things such as charging the enemy in the rear, out maneuvuring and destroying your oponnents warmachines etc
#2 Balance in Warhammer 40k is worse than balance in Warhammer Fantasy.
First i’m going to quickly explain the Tier System. An army thats part of “tier 4″ will never win a competitive game with a competant opponent, Tier 3 armies can sometimes win competitive games but you’re going to be at a disadvantage, Tier 2 is a tournament worthy army and Tier 1 is tournament worthy but has a slight advantage on tier 2.
Now having explained the tier system, heres the Tier list for warhammer 40k.
Tier 1: Vanilla Marines, Space Wolves, Grey Knights.
Tier 2: Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Imperial Guard and Chaos.
Tier 3 is comprised of Dark Eldar, Necrons, Orks and Eldar Dire Avenger Spam note not the Eldar army but simply spamming Dire Avengers and using prism cannons.
Tier 4 is EVERYTHING else.
Now, looking at these numbers we have 7 competitive armies, 3 armies at a disadvantage, one army that can only win if you play a specific play style and FOUR non competitive armies.
Here’s the Tier List for Warhammer Fantasy.
Tier 1: Daemons of Chaos, Dark Elves, High Elves, Skaven.
Tier 2: Lizardmen, Ogre Kingdoms, Orcs and Goblins, Vampire Counts, Warriors of Chaos, Tomb Kings, The Empire. (**Special Note The Empire are a few steps in the tier 3 direction but have enough good qualities to redeem themselves**)
Tier 3: Dwarves, Brettonia, Beastmen
Tier 4: Wood Elves
Here we have 11 competitive armies, three that are disadvantaged and only one uncompetitive.
So, I would push you towards warhammer fantasy for
-Better balance
-More strategic gameplay
Story wise 40k and Fantasy are both epic and its just what type of story you like more!
If you have any questions please ask!
I would say every army have great chances to win, it all depends on what you use and how you use them. Granted all space marines “classes” (wolves,angels,chaos,grey knights) have advantage over any other races, but it is still not big deal. Only real underling now is Tau, they dont have any flyers and they are all around weaker than others. I personally play with necrons and ive good pretty good win rate with them, i dont play on tournaments but i play near weekly at our GW store (they have 500points and 1000points matches there)
My Tier List was drawn from a competitive, Tournament gaming Perspective. I’m a regular Tournament gamer for both 40k and Fantasy. Tournament games are 2000,2500 and 3000 point affairs where EVERYONE is cheesing out there army and abusing there codex. Some people come in with a non cheesed army and they often leave disapointed and complaining how cheesing your army out is “No Fun”.
Well, Sir the thing is; it is! BUT you have to bring a cheesed out army to make it fun. Cheese VS Cheese can be A lot of fun! Cheese vs semi competitive is sometimes fun, Semi Competitive VS Casual is sometimes fun and Cheese VS Casual is no fun for either player.
Now, keeping this in minda cheesed out Tier 3 army is like a Semi Competitive Tier 1 army. So you can enter a Tournament with a Tier 3 army but more than likely you wont withe overall Tournament (You WILL win some matches), because the other guy simply has better rules to help him out.
Playing a Tier 4 army such as Tau your most cheesed out list will be somewhere between casual and semi competitive. You could beat a semi competitive army, but you will rarely beat a cheese one, as a result, you will never win a tournament.
I wish you luck in your games.
I’ve been away from 40K for about years now I was a mech-gaurd player following the release of their current codex. Now I’m thinking of returning with a second army Chaos army. Any advice for someone looking to build up a psycher heavy force making use of Thousand Sons?
Sixth Edition Rule Book came out, it has quite a few rule changes and has taken a few things from fantasy.
Fantasy has “Lores of Magic” for wizards.
Well now we have “Psycic lores” or some such nonsense. So would be good to read up on that.
A Thousand Son Themed Chaos army will do fine. The key to strategy in 40k is in Turns one-two. Those turns can make or break you. After that it’s a simple matter of prioritization of who you shoot.
Eh. I’d up the tier on the Guard.
The Imperial Guard is very much a meat-grinding, brute force army. First off, you can’t be afraid to lose infantry. Charge a big creature to slow it down and keep it tied up for a turn if you have to, while manuvering your heavy firepower to zap it once it comes out of the melee.
Make good use of barrage weapons…the guard have the most, as far as I can tell, of these kinds of weapons in the game. Manticores are phenominal; hide them behind a building, and then just drop the (up to 3 in on shot!) large blast templates on enemy troops…it will eat most things alive.
For those tougher nuts to crack, the Leman Russ basic tank is superb at taking down things with 3+ armor saves while being able to shrug off most hits. The executioner russ is even nastier, with a potential of 5 small plasma templates which will utterly destroy -any- opponent barring a cover or invulnerable save.
In a big enough game, bring a battery of basalisk artillery…again, keep them out of the line of fire and just keep dropping shots on enemy positions.
With the sheer amount of firepower a guard army can pour into a confrontation, combined with the sheer number of models it can put out, you can rapidly ruin an opponents day.
Basically, I wouldn’t call this a ‘will never win against a competant opponent army’ but rather an advanced army that requires a lot more planning, and knowing the strengths and limitations of your units.
Tier 2 is fine. You’re comparing them to the wrong armies man. A Vanilla marine army, a grey knight army and space wolves all have a advantage over guard hence they are Tier 1 and Guard is Tier 2 its like you didn’t even look at where i palced the gaurd
i have never played warhammer, is it good? if so what is the overall gameplay and story like?
Be nice to see them do a proper mmo set in 40k era. And actually advertise it unlike the poor abandoned Warhammer online, which i loved but apparently the feelings weren’t mutual for most gamers.
Blood Bowl (2) and Space Hulk. And those two games are already in development!
Suppose I wouldn’t mind a tactical turn-based SRPG based in the Warhammer Fantasy setting, either!
I’m so sick of Games Workshops actions as of late that I couldn’t care less really. Don’t see myself helping them make anymore money.
Wow that’s woud be a awesome game.im sure there is billions of devs around the world who think like you.and that’s why we have games like halo 23 and mass effect 9.clones clones clones.how about game that start you space ship and then depens on your choices its switch to rpg strategy or fps.now that woud be cool forwarhammer universe.
Can anyone decipher the above?
not a damn clue lol
There are two games that we really need to get for 40k. One is a game playing in the Imperial Guard. All those horrible Daemons and Aliens might be fun to kill when you are a gene-enhanced warrior monk but we really need to see war through the lens of the common man. Everything in Space Marine was impressive to look at but none of 40k’s grimdark came through in anything but the audio logs.
Secondly, and in my opinion most importantly, we need an Inquisition game. One part original Mass Effect and one part LA Noire. Can you imagine how awesome that would be? Flying around the Imperium and beyond trying to thwart a shadowy conspiracy that could spell doom for billions of human lives? In a perfect world the investigation wouldn’t simply be a narrative either. The investigation parts would be part of the game, the enemy would have some randomized elements to complicate the investigation and thwart people who’ve played before or just look up guides and the game would tell you the exact consequences for how you handled your case by the end of the game. That would be fun.
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A great P&P RPG is out where you play as an Imperial Guard (the Inquisition one is to wonky in the rules to really enjoy, in my opinion) It’s a great game that needs to see more exposure.
A solid game where you go from maybe Penal Legion conscript (Prisoner on death row for something) up through the ranks to a Lord Commissar would be great fun. Do you focus on skills/tactics to make yourself the ultimate badass in the end (though a space marine would likely still kick your teeth in, this is GW after all) or become the great general, a loved or feared leader? The choice is yours!
At least until a Nid eats your face.
Fun concept, now pick a solid studio that would make such a thing and DO IT GW!
Games Workshop had to do something after the ‘Space Marine’ fiasco. Their miniature lines will not be lasting too much longer after the next three price hikes this year. After that, they will just be selling their licenses.
Sir people have been predicting Games Workshops death for over 13 years. Why should I believe you when everyone else has been wrong?
2 words…
Dark Future!!!
It would be AWESOME if they came out with a Bloodbowl, seen from either a 3rd person perspective or a top-floating camera! I think not, that i am the only one craving this!
There is a new space hulk turn based strategy game in the works right now.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/01/space-hulk-preview/
Me being a huge warhammer 40k fan, not really so much for the board game but everything else surrounds this. This could be really good news. I just hope someone doesnt try to change how brutal the universe is…
A warhammer40k rpg would be fucking amazing, especially if it played like the space marine game but OFCOURSE with multiple races as options. I’ve been dreaming of such a game for ages, something like inquisitor but for ze PC
Yes to multiple races RPG, i would run as supercharged necron overlord/destroyer lord! I like 40k tabletop game, i almost go to GW play games. Althrough i would love some price drop to some of their products.
*every week to GW
the turn based 40k game intrests me the most, always wanted to get into the table top game but never had the money or ablity to paint to get into it. So heres hoping for the best
I think a first person RPG using all the warhammer fantasy races would be good like oblivion. you could easily have all the races have special abilities which i will suggest here:
Empire: rifle (only thing i could thing about what the empire get)
High elf: increased attack speed (because high elves go first always)
dark elves: not sure maybe better necromancy (again not sure what they do because no one where i play has an army of them)
Wood elf: gets to summon spites for personal buffs and can zoom in archery mode, horses fast in wooded terrain(because trees)
dwarfs: resistance to magic and increased in hp (standard stuff i know but that’s all they do, they walk slow beat you up while laughing at your magic)
skaven: increased summoning, can summon more than one creature (because there are A LOT of skaven)
orks: personal boar mount so its fights better than everyone else’s horse
Goblins: spider mount can travel through forests just as quick as wood elf horses.
bretonions: um…..better at horse fighting? (again no one uses bretonions so i don’t know what they do in battle)
chaos: powers depending on which god powers should be obvious
chaos daemons: gets to summon additional daemons
beast men: ….. stats depend on what kind of beastman you choose to be? (again same with the others i don’t know)
Ogres: allowed all over the world, damage reduction…moves faster when moving north (because that’s where i’m guessing the great maw is, for this this example as the great maw pulls all ogres to it at all time.
did i miss anyone else? i don’t think so but if i have feel free to tell me who i’ve missed and suggest powers for them.
now as for 40K i think a first/third person shooter like space marine except the story changes depending on what race you are (using the basic 3 for now space marines, chaos, eldar) and what chapter / warband/ craftworld you choose depends on what story you place, as well as a story for custom made groups that way everyone is pretty much guaranteed to play as their favorite chapter or what ever and we dont have to keep putting up with blood ravens in all the games (bar space marine i know but they are in there too!) and ultramarines for the model kits…. give the iron hands some love!!!
A story driven RPG in the Warhammer fantasy or 40k world. It would be nice to play with all of the races , but that would be too much to ask.
I would love to see a Warhammer Dark Omen 2. I very much enjoyed that game.
That could literally be the best game ever but would be wildly hard to implement.
PS. I am a member of a PS2 NC outfit that sometimes runs an all max squad that we call the Ultramarines! Its true, people pretty much crap themselves when they see 10 MAXes sprinting at them.
Dangit, this was supposed to be a reply to the post below.
I want to see a MMO Shooter in the style of Planetside 2. Boy, how awesome that would be
That would be the bomb! The thing that bothers me the most about Planetside 2 is its awful art direction.
THQ/Vigil games was working on something like that called “Warhammer 40,000: Dark Millennium”, but they decided to strip the MMO elements from it to make it single-player. The current status of it is unclear due to THQ going bankrupt though.
I think Sega also bought the Dark Millenium license, but THQ had fired the people that were working on it to relieve their debt stress. So if Sega wishes to do the game they just have to rehire the people that were working on it.
It wasn’t going to be an MMO FPS like planetside. It was going to be an MMO RPG. After their terrible attempt with the Warhammer MMO I think they realized MMO’s and RPGs are not the way to go with 40k. The setting just lends itself so much better to FPS or RTS.
i disagree i think rpg can work just find, if done properly. It would have to be in vein of say mass effect though, massively story driven with a nice shooting mechanic for say 40k. Its all down to story writers, and developers to pull it off. I think an rpg of 40k is fully possible its just no one has really tried that yet…
That would be pretty awesome.