Angry Joe gives his first Impressions/Review of the Elder Scrolls Online Beta! Take a look at what we can expect with this highly anticipated MMO.
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No you’re not right
There is pickpocketing and stealth
However, this game does have old and stupid mmo barriers and restrictions that are almost long gone
They would probably make more money with no subscription and bullshit
so many more people would buy the game
Yeah, there’s stealth.. I didn’t find a pickpocketing system however considering even in stealth you have to be careful, and it’s not really a stealth system when it’s taking your endurance/energy bar down that you use non-magic abilities for. It basically boils down to either using Stealth that DRAINS it or just going in full assault with all that endurance available.
One thing I noticed about this game is that enemies stand around, waiting to be attacked, and the ‘aggro range’ is obvious. In skyrim, enemies would run up to you and attack as soon as you see them, and they’d attack in pairs or entire groups. Occassionally, you wouldn’t know where arrows were coming from, you could snipe people and there were traps. The game probably doesn’t have pick pocketing or proper stealth either, am I right?
Some would even threaten you before attacking (if they weren’t so into chasing after you and were more into defending a certain location).
From what i’ve seen, the game is not worth 60$ and in no way is worth a subscription.
Oh and if I remember correctly, when they announced the subscription, they said that the game will start with subscription and will eventualy go free to play.
As it seams now the only strong point of this game may be the pvp aspect. But i’m not a fan of pvp, so most likely i will skip this game even as a FTP.
I loved Skyrim and TES too..
but I fear, that playing TESO could make us overdose with the TES world, gameplay, settings, music, action ect. ect…..
since it’s not too long ago, that we played many, many, many hours of Skyrim + DLCs (we need a bigger “break” between such mammoth games) and since TESO won’t be as epic as Skyrim’s Solo adventure feeling/exploring..
=> perhaps we shouldn’t spoil the epicness of TES with this (half hearted) TES game
(then when the next real TESVI game comes along on the PS4, it just might not feel as satisifing as it could, since we overdosed ourselfs with TES’s wolrd, settings, races, worlds, ect. in TESO…)
If they do TESO there will be no more TES single player games.
Much like Bioware butchered awsome Knights of the Old Republic solo games brand to cash in on an overhyped, awfuly executed, boring mmo.
don’t scare me and say, there will be no more TESVI X(
think KOTOR was something else, since Bioware had a good Si-Fi soloplayer Franchise running in the meantime…, so they didn’t need to push the Kotor Soloplayer anymore…
glad joe mentioned one of the most imporatant/ancipated elements of the geam => the “soundtrack”.., and happy it’s going to be cool… (wonder if they got Jeremy Soule again…),
I might get the game just get into the Soundtrack for a while…. (then stop playing and enjoy the OST futher..)
Oh, don’t even give me that. Skyrim literally brought out CoD level money, there is literally no way they’re just gonna leave money that people would pay for the next game on the table.
@ DMW45, agree… it’s hard to believe, that Bethesda wont make TESVI at some point….., probably on the PS4/XO..
Fallout 4 could come in 2015/16… (if Bethesda’s main trupp aren’t all working on TESO, and started on F4 right after Skyrim)
then we could expect TESVI in…2018/19 (??…. just thinking, that TESVI might only come out in 2018/19 makes me a bit depressed…., then we should get TESO after all…, and the fear of “overdosing” TES is meaningless.., TESO could atisfy just long enough, till Fallout 4 or Disonored 2 comes out..)
TESO is being made with it’s own studio, Zenimax Online Studios, I believe.
So they probably are at work on FO4, but haven’t announced it so they don’t take hype away from TESO.
Yeah, so much money, they don’t know what to do with it all. I’ve seen this happen before. In the end, they wanna get paid, but greed also destroys them when they realize they have enough money to pursue silly ambitions that end up ruining loyalty to the company from within. Eventually, the company gets a corporate overhaul and starts shilling out, much like EA or Activision or Ubisoft.
And much like how blizzard stopped making warcraft games in order to cash in on WoW. 😀
I’m seeing a pattern here.
I am a huge Elder Scrolls fan. I’ve played every TES game putting many hundreds of hours into each one since Morrowind. I’ve been greatly anticipating The Elder Scrolls Online since they announced it, and even moreso when they gave us updates describing it pretty much as like playing Skyrim multiplayer. I am so disappointed with it now that I’ve played the beta.
I am very much an RPGer and when you think RPG you think The Elder Scrolls, they are the epitome of RPG games, they set the bar. The Elder Scrolls Online is WAY too much MMO and not enough RPG.
I am not a stranger to MMO games, I’ve played World of Warcraft since release, and I’ve played some others here and there most notably Star Wars The Old Republic, Star Trek Online and Lord of the Rings Online, and The Elder Scrolls Online feels just like another cookie-cutter MMO. It has me running from quest to quest, “go here, kill that, talk to so-and-so” that is indigenous to MMO games but is not what TES is about.
I agree that it’s strong points are the gorgeous music and voice acting but it lacks the immersive story and sandbox freedom that I’ve come to expect from Elder Scrolls games.
I will not be buying this game. I /may/ WHEN it becomes free to play (because we all know it will) but for now I’ll be anticipating Skywind.
it seam the fighting system is a bit better than the 5th episode , but there is more option , joe is playing this on pc , personnaly a will wait before buy a xbox one .
i am pissed at not seeing gta 5 on pc what u guys think
I hope you realize that posting that as a reply won’t change the subject any more than making it a new comment, right?
it seam the fighting system is a bit better than the 5th episode , but there is more option , joe is playing this on pc , personnaly a will wait before buy a xobox one .
JOE, read this please. (thanks for the impressions about TES online i found them really usefull and fun in the same time)
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Oh, and sorry for my English. I made a couple of stupid mistakes. It’s not usually that bad : )
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I think this was a very fair, pretty balanced review. I just got done playing the most recent beta, and had some of the same issues that you did. I will agree that the voice acting and the music were top notch. As for combat, I think that the strongest was the spell casting, which felt more Elder Scrolls than either the ranged or melee, but that probably reflects my personal preference rather than anything else.
One of the main problems I ran into personally was the immersion aspect. Here’s an example: no matter what race you choose to play as, the dialog options are identical. I played the Daggerfall Covenant races mostly, and I thought it would have made more sense for there to be more antagonism from the orcs in the game if you choose to play a Breton or Redgard, and vice-versa. That’s just a minor example, but it took me out of the game a bit. Would have also preferred to have more things to discover when you go wandering in the starter areas…being forced into a linear story is all well and good, but it isn’t really what previous Elder Scroll games have been about.
I didn’t have time to try pvp, and will be interested to hear about your experiences with it. As of now, I’m on the fence about purchasing this game.
People , we are commenting a BETA..
I think there are not verry much bugs to find.
it’s quite polisched art work.
my + points:
PvP is great , and persanally works better for me then guildwars2
Also great that there is dedicated roles : healers , tanks , dps.
Lot of possible builds , cos of skill trees in armor/weapon/race/guild etc , etc.
My – points:
little aggro skills for tank builds
lack of missions / or y must search for iron and plants all the time…..
a whole race is blocked if y don’t pre-order
races are mixed on pre-order (big fault , for the ability to be proud)
But still .. it’s a beta , lots can change over time (like WoW did)
o yeah , check the first skill calculator …. http://skillcalc.massyx.de/
Yep, Bethesda makes cheap and boring games, overdull and never finished (neither by developers, nor by players). Their games are not the actual reason they get bought. They get bought because of the nude mods, alright?
They reuse same crooked outdated engine with a single useful feature of addon modules, and Skyrim is still alive only because of the that mod community, not even worth the effort of playing through Vanilla. Same with Fallout, except NV.
Generally I get nausiated every time RPG story “starts in prison”, etc.
I just had to create an account to comment on your reply. The only reason anybody plays their games is for nude mods? Please dude, they play them because they offer an open, highly detailed, immersive world that you can lose yourself in for literally hundreds of hours. And as for nobody finishing them. If you wanted to you could finish Skyrim in just over 2 hours. That’s only if you play the main storyline, which is still pretty good. They didn’t use the same engine for Skyrim that they did with previous entries, so there you are completely wrong.
Why even bother watching a video for a series, let alone a developer, that you just seem to loathe and dismay? Are you hoping that one day they will make a game you’ll actually enjoy? Bethesda has been making the same type of game for as long as I can remember, and that’s a good thing. You know what you’re getting when you buy a Bethsoft game. If you expected any different from Fallout 3 or NV you were seriously kidding yourself. Everybody has a right to their opinion, but the opinion should make some semblance of sense. Yours does not.
Do not feed the trolls.
‘People only download for nude mods’ is funny though.
First of all sorry for my English.
Nice to see how the mass hypnosis takes effect. Hate hate hate!!! It is NOT Skyrim! High monthly fee! Wow has better game mechanics. And so on… (These were quotes from this forum.) Very clever and individual thoughts. Maybe every journalist wrote the same. So they are big individuals too. They have the very same thoughts about ESO which is a little bit confusing for me. So many individuals with the same result. Deduction: the object which they talk about has the quality of they result. But what if they have the same quality and not the object of their speech. And they have. They are journalists writing for money writing for more readers and more likes. They need story and action. And what is a better story than a 200 million dollar game which has serious problems and maybe it will be big fail. Some of them even has the courage to say dont buy the game. And the readers are coming in masses. Im here too and you who reads this 🙂 Try to think with their head. What will be if the game will be a big success or what if it will fail? I tell you. Nothing. If it will be success the same journalists will write about the big success story and everythig else will be forgotten. If it will fail they will write about the long foretold fail of a huge MMO. In that later case some of them will speak with respect about a death of a big game in MMO industry because it means even more readers. Both case they will have more and more readers. But the forum members say the same too. Because they are big individuals too. If you say the same you feel you are right. And it is a good feel. Why cant everybody just spectate and think hmmm I will be careful with this title but I will give it a try. Or think I will talk with real players later to decide. If you deleted the beta in the first 10 minutes why is it so important to tell that. I tell you: for trolling. What if I will buy it and I will play it and I will throw it to the bin. It is not a decision of life or death. If it will fail I will not cry for it. And I will not say that I foretold that. I will say I spent money for it and it went to the trash. Wow has the same monthly fee even today. Thats ridiculous not the ESO pricing. Or if you want to buy a bag slot for one of your character in Rift for around 4 dollars per slot. Thats ridiculous. But why is so important to tell that in public. Because you or me envy the people who can do that. Or you or me completly can’t understand why they do that. And it is a good feel to say negative thing about people who we envy or we can’t understand. Have more love.
It’s okay to have poor english, but the walls of text are still confusing. Space out your words a little more next time.
While I get the pre-order any race any alliance thing, and particularly the Imperial thing, but are you aware that you get functionally the same thing for hitting 50 and finishing your faction quest line, and does that information change your opinion any?
one more thingif somebody was going to tell me if its worth the initial box price I would say yes but its far is it $15 scription goes I don’t know yet I haven’t experienced the end game
the one thing I did notice playing the beta that the Norn area in the human areawhich I played both looks not done yet but the Elf area was awesome and action packed the enemy’s work harder and the story was awesometruly felt epic Friday and Saturday I was bored add the pinion this is not worth the money but then on Sunday I decide to give it one last go in the elf starting area and had a 110 percent blast and actually died a lot which got me excited my final thoughts were that sick does two areas are just not quite finished yet and I’m hoping that they will bring them up to par
I think it needs more polishing. I also think there is a battle between the developers wanting to make a truly wonderful game and the marketing team with dollar signs in their eyes. Hence, the pay extra pre-order now B.S., you cant tell me the developers didn’t fight that whole play any race bull shit. Overall I will play this game with the price tag attached until its free to play and migrate back to wow.
Wow this game looks boring.
If there was an initial purchase price like GW2 I would play. I love Skyrim but not enough from what ive seen to pay for the game plus a monthly fee
and ill defenely play as a dragon knight high elf for the altmeri dominium.
you know guy the are 3 games i want to buy this year : wow warlords of draenor, diablo 3 reaper of souls and waching this video ill buy elder scrolls online, because i think even with all of the issues of this games i still wanna play them.
Having played several MMO’s since 1997 when I played Everquest for the first time, I have to say, I’ve been pretty happy with the game so far, even with the bugs. It seems to carry on with modern improvements to the MMO genre, attempting to make it easy to play with a console controller, optimizing the graphics engine for a lot of polygons, keeping the controls and interface as simple as possible while including the functionality of an MMO. My only experience with the Elder Scrolls series was with oblivion, which I tried to play so I could pick up Skyrim, like I did when I played Dragon Age after seeing a DA2 review. But I just could not make it through Oblivion, I just felt personally that a game like that seemed empty and boring without more players running about, the only single player sandbox game I’ve liked has been Saints Row 4. Another selling point for an MMO fan like myself is that ESO is not as cartoony or anime as the rest made since EQ. My feeling like I’m exploring an actual place that exists somewhere is lost when it looks like I’m watching a cartoon, even with sci-fi I can suspend disbelief in the environment like it is in Mass Effect. It’s also nice to have all of that in a not-a-wow-clone, because MMO =/= WoW 😛 WoW seemed to actually turn into an end-game engine, and any appeal of playing the game other than to level up to max seemed to be lost, even to the player-base. Now their opinions on what is an MMO has been skewing the opinions of those who would be newbs, and everyone is confused about making their own opinion of the games. Yes, if you don’t like MMO’s, you will not… like… MMO’s based on Elder Scrolls either. But some people might like the ESO who have never played MMO’s before, like every MMO that has ever come out. But I digress, I think 😛
Playing ESO reminds me of playing EQ/EQ2, the support is pretty friendly and seem to be around fairly often, and it seems like it will continue after the Beta since there is a monthly fee. Also the fee will keep the player community mostly free of trolls… well, compared to F2P games the difference is huge. Though I would rather it be able to be F2P to keep the community larger. Good games being F2P make them a lot more fun to play once most veteran players are at max level; low level areas are barren in P2P games after a while. Before I started wanting to play ESO I was toying with Age of Conan again, which is a lot more fun to play now that it is free and there are actually people in the low level areas.
It’s funny though, how many people who say they play WoW, and keep comparing this and other new games to WoW, don’t actually seem to like MMO’s at all. It sounds like they just play end game stuff with their friends and think that is the bees knees and whatnot 😛 That’s fine, I can see the appeal, I even tried getting a character up in WoW so I could play with some friends I was working with at the time, but good lord I hate grinding. When I lose things to do in a game that isn’t grinding, it’s off to another game for me 😛 End game for most games is no game for me, unless there’s an expansion my monthly payment goes elsewhere. If my friends played MMO’s, I’m sure I would have a different opinion about that for whatever game we all decided to play together 😛
To sum up my story here, I think the people who the game will appeal to the most are people who like Elder Scrolls and MMO’s, and don’t mind paying to play, at least till Zenimax get their money back. If you don’t like MMO’s at all, steer clear of this one, because it is definitely an MMO. It’s still beta, so maybe more random NPC’s will have little tasks to do. For now, most can be talked to, so there’s definitely room in the system to add more NPC interactions like there are in Oblivion. Hopefully they take some of the suggestions Joe gave in his review. Maybe lower the monthly fee to $5 or $10; I may be willing to pay $15, but I like playing with other people too 😛 Every P2P game will become empty in the low level areas after a while until it goes F2P. In the past the few people who played didn’t care, today everyone does. No matter how good a game is, if a new player doesn’t have anyone to play with, they will play something else, and the game will start shrinking as old players get tired of it, and no new players join. ESO seems to have enough content to keep the starter players busy for a while, but end gamers won’t know what to do, for them I would suggest waiting a half year at least (however long it takes for a normal player to max out), and if it’s still popular, and there are people maxed out, then join. End gamers never get to the end game first and have fun when they get there. The only reason it worked on WoW is because there was already a large population of regular gamers at end game, and its why most end gamers think WoW is the best game ever, and that the rest are dead at end game. The end game community is a unique WoW phenomena created in WoW, that has yet to be repeated in another game, except maybe End Game: The Game, or Guild Wars 2 😛 But I digress, I’m sure ESO’s endgame will be fine ;P
I wish I could think of something to help make this game appeal more to the masses that hasn’t already been suggested by Joe. It could cause problems for EQNext, and games that are currently relying on P2P MMO’ers bored with the games they might be playing. The cross platform nature opens the doors to a good MMO for those who might be willing on the console, but who knows how many that might be, the ES fans so far have been less than thrilled by the game, and a good portion of the potential console players may not be into MMOs much. If the people making ESO are keeping their expectations realistic, as in ignoring the WoW end gamers production advice, and be aware of the mistakes of MMOs past, then they should do fine for a P2P game today.
That was long. Ill shorten it up. If you like elder scrolls and mmo’s you will have a blast. If u like mmo’s u will have a blast for awhile but soon you will feel that it lacks community. If you like elder scrolls and you want to play this you might want to hold off for awhile until f2p.
pros: great support, not cartoony, great pick if u want to play a mmo for ur first time and u like skyrim
cons: ES fans find it shallow, cost, end game might be shallow as well
There’s a funny thread about Joe’s review here. It’s interesting watching people try to discredit Joe’s opinion even though it’s shared by other critics.
I hate shit like this, makes me mad people talk shit on someone they don’t know. I would pay Angry Joe for his shows.
Uninstalled it before the beta ended, ain’t even worth the hard disk space.. Wouldn’t play this even if it was free to play.
at the moment, if you pre order you can play any race on any alliance
typed this before finishing the video, joe already said the pre order thing heh
Hell even a purchase once play forever style would be better
Am i the only one bored by Skyrim?
If it’s anything like Morrowind, I would be bored.
I never quite got what is so great about the ES series of games. Morrowind was boring. The game mechanics were a joke, e.g. herb A heals you, herb B poisons you, herb A + B … heals and poisons you … Really? That’s it?
Combat was just spam attack until mob died … nothing more to it.
Try playing as a primary magic user under the Atronach sign. After you grind the first few levels and learn the “summon ghost” spell (used for recharging yourself), you will rule the land. 😀
No you are not.
One of my biggest complaints about Elder Scrolls is that every game since Morrowind has less and less interesting/usefull spell effects. In Morrowind, you could do everything with magic, up to and including summoning a kitchen sink. Yet, in Skyrim, magic boils down to frying people with fire or lightning.
With that in mind Joe, it would be VERY good if you could, in the PvP video, prove to us that magic in Elder Scrolls Online is back in force and that magic users are not just sentient flamethrowers.
One other thing that was not obvious from this video: is the signature TES feature of reclassing oneself still present? I mean, if you are a warrior, and then decide you want to use lots of magic, can you grind yourself up to gain a new set of abilities?
The classes are mainly a frame, what picture is placed in that frame is up to you. There are alot of skill tree investments that every class can use that creates your picture. For example, you don’t have to be a Templar to be a healer, you can simply choose to have wield a restoration staff and invest in its skill tree abilities which obviously involve healing and support. Of course, you can choose to be other a Templar and restoration staff user and use both abilities.
There are also destruction staff abilities to invest in the skill tree if you want to be a magic DPS using warrior. There is also the Mage’s guild you can join to get their magic abilities.
Overall, the skill tree is flexible enough that choosing class and deciding you don’t like its abilities won’t hurt you much.
Wow, I made a lot of grammar errors.
As a member of House Telvanni, I do not dabble with such inferior rabble as the Mages Guild. 😉
if it didn’t charge you extra for extra classes and horses and have to pay $15 dollars a month I would buy it
I am such a big fan of the Elder Scrolls series. Since Morrowind I am so much into the TES franchise. I have easily 500+ hours of gameplay in Skyrim, Oblivion and Morrowind. (Modding excluded) But it is as you have said it.
Even if I am maybe the biggest fan of the franchise, I will never be comfortable with paying monthly for a game. I am sorry, I cant do that. It doesnt matter how good the game is or how much I love the franchise.
I will only feel obliged to play the game because when I dont play it, I pay money for nothing. It would stress me the hell out to know that I lose my hard earned money for nothing.
And what became out of the honest trade between game producers and the gamers? When I pay for something once, it is supposed to be mine. I understand that I use their servers and everything but it is still not a reason to demand money from me every month. Arent they aware that there are enough fees to pay in these days? 15€ are food for 3 days -_-
I played over 1200h of Skyrim and was very excited about ESO. I quit playing the ESO beta after 10h. It’s boring, flat, linear, silly and lacks any immersion add to that very convoluted crafting, weak combat and the game is a write-off . Perhaps that’s an MMO thing and I never played MMOs, so coming to this game expecting Skyrim like experience left me totally disappointed.
To be honest, I am very sure they will improve that with patches, updates, addons, etc.
I have seen that many times with MMOs. The best example for that is Planetside 2. They improve the game the whole time. So I would totally play it but… this thing with the monthly payment is just not acceptable. I always was very angry with Blizzard to dare to demand money every month for WoW. I have never played that either just because of this payment system.
I am very sure ESO will be good when more player join in and updates come out. But it doesnt matter how good they will make this game, I neither want to pay for that monthly neither I can even afford it.
I have issues with how expensive horses are. 50 g! That takes hours upon hours.
A fair assessment Joe man . I have always loved the Elder Scrolls and in particular Skyrim and Elder scrolls it aint.
I Have to say that one of the most irritating aspect of the game for me is how the 3rd person view is not centre screen in combat, I like to play directly behind my character as in skyrim and find that how your toon moves to the left of the screen as you scroll in disorientating and sort of akward. I won’t be paying nine poundingtons a month for this i would rather play rift or swtor or even skyrim which never gets old for me.
This video highlights every major issue with TES. If they watch this and fix everything that he highlights, the game will be great.
Oh, and sorry for the double post, but apparently if you pick up a bow you get infinite arrows. So much for managing your arrow supply, sneaking around and going for headshots, and making sure you have a sidearm in case you run out or the enemy closes with you.
Yes, unlimited arrows, auto-aim, no head shots and you can’t fast switch weapons until you reach certain level and even then you can only fast switch between two weapons. I didn’t get that far, got too bored.
Basically I was expecting TES gameplay in an MMO. What I got instead was an MMO that just happens to be based in Tamriel. Seriously, an LoL style action bar? That doesn’t scream “Elder Scrolls” to me. It actually screams “THIS IS NOT ELDER SCROLLS” I’ll sit this one out and play Morrowind while waiting for TES VI
I played the beta. It’s good, but not 15$/month good.
I got into the beta played it for a few hours, the game just felt horrid to me, bugs all over the place. Combat seemed even worse then Skyrim. I just can’t see myself paying monthly for this. I got into the beta again I can’t even be bothered to download the updates for it.
It’ll be free to play before the year is out
I got to admit that I was excited for the Elder Scrolls Online, but when I noticed it was a monthly fee paying mmo, I thought “no”.
I don’t feel like you guys got out of the starter zones into the main area. Because there are tons of quests, public dungeons, group dungeons, Oblivion style gates, Town wars, And random events. Example, I was on my way to collect the head of a bandit and a guy randomly ran up to me asking me to do him a favor. On the way to do that I saw a torch on the map that turned out to be a huge cavern to explore. When I left I ran into a temple where I had to collect the hearts of the fallen for a sacrifice. When I finally made it back to town I had to go capture a rat and throw it into a tavern so the the keep would chase after it and I could steal his prized wine. Than I got drunk and had a bar fight with some nords. To cap it off me and my buddies sat around a campfire and played the lute. Non of which was a “Main” q. It’s a game where you get what you put into it. Given the “prologue” could be a bit less linear but it’s the prologue. Still love your reviews Joe and keep it up.
I agree. This sounds closer to my experience as well. I had genuine fun just exploring the world, gathering mats and questing. When I got together with friends, I had fun x10.
It does seem somewhat boring when you first get out of ColdHarbor; the quests are more spread out and not as cohesive. As you move on though, things definitely pick up! I don’t feel the areas are as barren and there are more seemingly random ‘surprise’ monsters. The quests get more in depth and the story line starts to cohere. Also getting the travel shrines open, definitely cuts down on the travel time. As I progressed in the story line, traveling by foot became a lot less boring and a lot more worrisome that I might run into a group that could kill me before I reached my objective. Some stuff I waited on until I could get a friend or three to travel with me.
There seemed to be a distinct lack of random encounters like what Skyrim had, and it suffers for it. There needs to be some random side quests or encounters. The old Orc searching for hits death in battle. A member of the thieves guild, or Dark Brotherhood, comes up and accosts you. A party of vampires ambushes you. Though in my play throughs of Skyrim there seems to be an over occurrence of the vamp ambushes. From what I’ve seen in this video, they need to make it more like Skyrim.
I will say that the destruction spells seem cool. MK Scorpion “Get over here!” Style attack as well as that one fire one Angry Joe used to roast chickens. I’d use more destruction magic in Skyrim if there were spells like that. (Console player due to lack of funds to buy gaming comp).
What Joe showed was starter areas. Believe me there are more random side quests and they can end up going quite deeper in depth than you would expect.
Also if you like destruction spells, I think you are going to be pleasantly surprised.
My philosophy is 1 if you have to pick a class its not elder scrolls 2 if the attacks have cool down its not elder scrolls 3 if you have to be a certain level to use a sword or armour its not elder scrolls 4 if you have to pick a skill tree and stick with it its not elder scrolls 5 if you cant be a fire throwing hammer wielding back stabbing pick pocketing warrior its not elder scrolls 7 IF THE GAME MAKES YOU KILL THOUSANDS OF RATS OR GENERIC MONSTERS THAT BORE YOU TO GAIN A LEVEL ITS NOT ELDER SCROLLS 8 IF IT IS LIKE WOW IT IS NOT ELDER SCROLLS 9 IF THE GAME MAKES YOU JUST KILL MONSTERS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER WITH NO VARIATION ITS NOT ELDER SCROLLS 10 and finally IF I DONT HAVE FUN EVERY SINGLE TIME I PLAY THE GAME ITS NOT ELDER SCROLLS. I am seeing allot of these things and it makes me wish they just made elder scrolls 6 and it makes me think Bethesda went the blizzard wrought and fucked up there franchise wow fucked it up with mists of pandaria and Bethesda fucked it up with elder scrolls online until they release elder scrolls 6 or remasters daggerfall or something im not giving a single cent on any other elder scrolls game they fucked up the franchise for me and that just makes me mad that they messed up the whole franchise and the prices of EVERY THING IN THE GAME IS JUST FUCKED UP…… go download morrowind or oblivion or skyrim I GAURENTE that you will have A FUCK TON of more fun then if you play this shit I played this game as far as I could go in the beta AND EVER SECONTE BORED ME I love this franchise but if this is the wrought there going to take and pour there resources into this and not give us elder scrolls 6 im not giving them a single cent ever again just go play any other elder scrolls game and you will have more fun then this its just wow with a first person perspective and a elderscrolls paint job.
Amen! Magicmanbran f***ing Amen!
Attacks have cool downs? OMG, I did not see that in the video. Have to rewatch.
Attacks do not have cool downs. You can reuse a skill as many times in combat as you want as long as you have the magicka or stamina to fuel it.
There are no classes like you are thinking. Your class picks some starting skill trees (which you can mix and match, you don’t have to pick one) of abilities, but you can also access weapon skills, armor skills, etc.
I ran into no kill 10 quests at all.
I had a full quest journal filled with main quests, random quests while on the road, new quests appearing while in dungeons, etc.
Just like in Skyrim I ended up with an overfull journal of quests, and constantly ran into people while traveling to give me new quests.
Got into the beta before this one, went up to lvl 12 until i was so bored i just quitted the game… Really really boring… Even if it went free to play, I’m not sure i would play it anyway
Why do single player titans feel the need to go MMO. Bioware you can’t do MMOs face it. Bethesda you excel at single-player not multiplayer. This feels like another SWTOR waiting to happen. I bought and played SWTOR the only thing I was thinking was I wish they made a KOTOR 3. Looks like the same thing for this game. When are we getting the next “real” Elder Scrolls game? But then again this is Bethesda maybe they can pull a miracle out of their ass.
Good luck Bethesda you’re gonna need it at this rate.
I’m just gonna go cry until Bioware decides to go back to making good Star Wars games or Mass Effect 1 again.
Couldn’t be more right. This is going to be another Star Wars. The funny thing about this is that Skyrim was basically a singleplayer MMO in how it played in the first place. Now they’re making the MMO version and slapping a sub onto it. All they had to do was put multiplayer in Skyrim in the first place.
And they want a sub for this? Hasn’t everyone learned by now that unless you’re Blizzard, you can’t charge a sub for an MMO? They should have did what Guild Wars 2 did – sell a box, no sub. Then they would have had a great pair of legs to stand on. But instead they’re going to sandwich between WoW and Guild Wars 2 by not being as good as either and also more expensive than the second.
You do realise that Bethesda has nothing to do with this game, right? It’s their parent company Zenimax who are developing it.
Why do single player titans feel the need to go MMO? Because their investors want MoMOney!
There’s really not too many purely pay to play MMOs anymore over here, most have already converted over to buy to play, free to play, or at least offer large amounts of the game in a free to play fashion. This one will likely do well enough for the first while at least, mainly due to the name and popularity connected to that name, as many people will want to like the game since it is an Elder Scrolls game. How it will fair a year from now or so is another matter, and we’ll just have to wait and see how that goes.
i think this game is total trash… its okay.. but its NOT Elder Scrolls…
i HATE HATE HATE that its a totally stripped down version of Elder Scrolls, just to appeal to MMO fans.. its entirely lame…
it shouldve been Elder Scrolls gameplay first and foremost… you sacrifice multiplayablity to make it Elder Scrolls gameplay…
you dont sacrifice Elder Scrolls gameplay to make it MMO….
its a piece of crap, and i refuse to believe its an Elder Scrolls game..
if feels like a fan art game… something some kid threw together..
the game seems cool… but… its a bland MMO with Elder Scrolls skin.
its like “ooh WoW is making millions of dollars, lets do that”
that is the only thing they thought of….
I’d stake my life on the fact that the sub will be removed in less than a year. That’s assuming it doesn’t get a full F2P conversion like Star Wars. They think they’ve got a winner with this… that’s the same mistake Bioware made with Star Wars. People that actually know MMOs knew that game was doomed as soon as we played the beta, and no surprise, it flopped in less than a year. Skyrim is going the same route. Bethesda apparently paid no attention to the industry they’re shifting to, just like Bioware before them. They’re going to learn the hard way.
I think it is amazing that every race can go any alliance that really sets it apart from world of warcraft
Splitting up the races in that manner didn’t make sense, it doesn’t matter what you are it matters what you believe, i found your first skepticism illogical, this isn’t world of warcraft fan boy its elders scrolls and no matter what race you are you can still join what ever alliance.
i agree with some of your other points, i wont be buying a pay to play but i would buy it for sure if it were free to play.
But you CANNOT do that. Only people who PREORDER the game have that choice. I have played the Beta (didn’t get far because it is horribly buggy and an MMO; MMOs are always boring for me, even GW2). Anyone who does not preorder must choose a race and that sets their alliance. Each alliance has 3 playable races. You do NOT choose your alliance. His point is that if the game is being split into race-based alliances it makes no sense to allow some people to break those lore boundaries for the sake of a pre order cash grab.
What I like about this game is vast amount of customization that it somewhat brought back from Elder Scrolls, I like that.
I fear this game will almost end up like SWTOR, It appears far better than SWTOR, but it may just end up going down the same path in failure that SWTOR did.
It’s a shame really, but game devs are making terrible mmo’s by making the same mistakes over and over again.
Also was pissed to find out you can be any race on any faction, being a Breton in the Aldmeri Dominion is especially stupid. The Imperial race I wasn’t real angry about, they may end up introducing it as a buyable race in the future anyway. I am curious if the Imperial race has its own questline and then you choose which faction to belong to just like the Pandaren in WoW, or if it follows the same generic faction quests. I hope for this game’s sake the Imperials have their own questline at least.
How do you think it will play on the console? I know that its going to come out on the console do you think that will affect how the game is played at all.
It will just be a slightly lesser experience. I don’t think anyone doubts that MMO experiences are vastly superior on PC.
This looks very bland so far. I don’t like the lockouts and pay walls. and after playing other MMO’s like SWTOR, DCUO, and Tera, I don’t think I’ll ever get used to all the fights being 1 on 1 again.
On top of that, I got tired of the “all you do is run” style with FFXI. This does not look like something I’d pay a month fee to play.
This game is actually very good. The MMO player base will love it. Levelling is meant to be tedious so that people appreciate the end game. Unfortunately Zenimax is listening to the single player crowd expecting it to match Skyrim (Which was a very bad game that suffered many of the flaws people claim ESO has). There will be a strong back bone of players that have played mmo’s for years thanks to the new combat style. It is liberating for MMO players. Elder Scrolls Online will now separate the wheat from the chaff.
Gotta say I disagree. Leveling isn’t meant to be tedious, it’s just that many games (and MMOs in particular) don’t handle it very well.
No game developer adds something deliberately tedious. But things get added to MMOs and other games all the time that aren’t properly tested, and that feedback isn’t properly recorded and acted on for. This results in the “baseline” of tedium that you have experienced in previous games while levelling.
whets about most anticipated games of 2014 video?!
Im still waiting for it
Skyrim was a very game bad bus ESO is good? Hmm, I guess everyone has a right to an opinion.
is it possible that the released version will have more things to do between quests? perhaps they are only showing a stripped down version when it comes to that since it is a beta? that would seem a little odd though if they want to get as many people to play it as possible
if its coming out soon, then this is what you’ll see on release. What your asking is possible, but takes time to put it into the code. Besides since the game is in beta, if there were more quests in between then they would already be available since beta is the time to test them and see if there are any problems.
You can actually visit points of interest that show up on your compass, find hidden chests of loot, and harvest crafting resources while running in-between quests. The only reason you wouldn’t find anything, is because you’re not looking.