I got hands on time with dragon age inquisition at a recent press event for the game. Here are my first impressions!
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I have to say this is the first time I disagree with Angry Joe. About a month later, the first patch allowed me to progress past Skyhold and this is where the game is supposed to open up. It did, but with the badly designed PC control scheme (easily the worst of the series) and a incredibly long list of problems that still require a patch, the game is at best, a 5. Great storytelling, excellent environmental graphics and decent companions ALMOST make up for the terrible combat system, dumbed-down tactics and a whole lot of fetch quests. Multplayer is an EA cash grab and the technical issues at launch and those that persist just make me wonder how this game got so much love at the yearly awards. Maybe the console version is polished, but the PC version felt unfinished. I really hope a third patch comes out soon.
I’m at level 7. I’m using a mage.
Why does flirting come up in almost every conversation I have with NPCs? The majority of them, I can’t even hook up with. Why flirt knowing it leads nowhere? Dumb.
Anyway, I should be ready to level up again after about a hundred more fights, and then I’ll be strong enough to take out a basic rift, without getting utterly annihilated by the rage demons, Banshees and weird little flying guys with ice-lasers that can destroy anyone in under 2 seconds.
I play on “Normal”. I have lost more fights than I’ve won, and even basic weaklings can insta-kill my team without swinging twice. Spent like 15 hours looking for ways to make my equipment better, and I’m being slaughtered by basic, run-of-the-mill, average, everyday enemies. I may have to change it to Casual, and obtain the title of “Little Bitch”, just to beat a rage demon (1-hit KO every time).
I avoid the high dragon. I learned my lesson very quickly with that monster.
Rage demons whoop me immediately. Banshees play very dirty. They can erase your team in one move.
I find myself reviving a dead party member (usually ALL of them) in almost every fight. In other DA games, I would rely on HEALING SPELLS for that. I got some 4-letter words about the lack of healing magic, and potions are limited to 8 among the whole team, with the exception of your PC, who has access to 1 (eventually 2) other potion of a pre-chosen type.
Shades, wolves, and certain bandits are manageable. Anything else stomps me like an ant. On DAO, Normal was exactly what it should have been. There was a challenge, but it was doable. On DA2, Normal was usually pretty easy. 1 carefully placed AOE attack, and a crowd would be dead, or at least severely damaged. Many enemies had a health gauge high enough to survive a fireball, but it was still very effective.
On DAI, I just die all the time, even when using moves that appear totally badass. These enemies can take quite a major ass-whooping, and I cannot. Feels like I’m playing on Nightmare.
I am on my third day now trying to beat this rift. I already skipped one because the rage demon destroyed us all, for about 30 attempts in a row.
Ya think just maybe the difficulty is cranked up just a little too high!?
Have you bothered to check to level of the enemies you’re fighting?
Hovering over them while using the tactical cam will show you their level and other information such as strenths/weaknesses.
Are you in the Hinterlands, at a Rift in the river? You’re not supposed to clear everything the first time you encounter it. Are you telling me you’ve SERIOUSLY spent **3 days** attempting the same thing, and didn’t realize it above the level of your party?
You spent “15 hours” trying to make your equipment better? Maybe you should have simply quested and leveled up during that time.
After reading the official Bioware forums, it looks like actual game developers and management are addressing the issues, but nothing has come out yet as far as a patch is concerned. The more I read it, the more I honestly believe the PC version is a poorly-coordinated console port that wasn’t going to be addressed until the refunds were issued and the rage-filled posts spamming their forums. Some posters said that all the money that EA makes is from consoles. That’s the exact opposite per a multitude of websites saying that PCs are EA’s strongest money-makers. Bioware has shot itself in the foot again.
Nothing has changed. Developers are AWOL on the forums. Patch 3 broke the game for many PC users and patch 4 came in under the radar. For consoles, EA/Bioware is awesome. For the PC community, EA/Bioware is crap. All the fanboys, go away. All the critics, get away. This game, at best, gets an INCOMPLETE and a D for execution.
Stay away from this game. It’s the biggest dissapointent I have ever experienced. So many months of waiting, now lost for such a crap.
The games is ESO-like with meaningless exploration, and pointless missions.
I should ask for money return, seriously.
Actually, let me add few more words cos I am really frustrated after 30hrs (lvl 14).
Combat system was taken directly from DA2 and so similar to ESO. Forget about tactical system it doesn’t work here due to camera work and honestly I have no idea why it was implemented if I didn’t work out.
Graphics just average although some locations were nice-looking, surely they could do better.
Exploring, let me tell you a thing, if you hated jumping in ES: Oblivion then here is only worse.
No side missions and it is a key of succes of any cRGP!!! Here, generally, all is about collect 10-30 items and bring’em back then collect next 40, and it’s endless. That’s how the game makes you a fool.
For some reason I have been lying myself it’s gonna be better but it’s getting worse.
Now, I am going to complete the main story and forget about this game. I should be more cleaver after what they did with DA2. But I was fooled not just me. Go on metacritic and see the users’ comments for yourself.
I hope to see Joe angry as well.
Try harder. I’m playing pure tactical with AI completely off. Yeah, the tac cam is wonky, probably because they couldn’t do a split mesh in a giant open world game, but at the end of the day it gets the job done. My level 6 team taking down level 8 Hinterland bandits demonstrates that.
My big complaint is that cycling through enemies in tactical view still selects noncombatants. That nonsense was back in DA:O. Seriously, Bioware?
Click. Archer. Click. Big scary hammer dude. Click. Sells word. Click. Fennec fox? Lol.
Seriously… Are you whining about exploration? It sounds like you are whining about too much stuff to do in a game. Not that you have even finished the game, or even gotten past 75% of the main quests, but whine anyway!
Too many fetch quests? Why don’t you just collect stuff on your way to the side quests that have you assault up a hill, then into a fortress to find clues to open the door before being betrayed by friend? Maybe you are playing a different game, but that is how mine is going.
I would LOVE for you whiners to describe the perfect game for you. I would LOVE to hear what features you would play for 80+ hours. I would LOVE to hear what your favorite games are, because I have been playing since Atari’s Pitfall, and it just sounds like you are being a baby.
me2, but just to be fair, it is picking up a bit, the minimum requirement would be for me to get rid of the “grind blocks” for story quests. I should always be able to continue with the storyline without having to do “power grind”, I dont want to do.
Punish me for it with plot. Just like in any ME game, when you didnt want to do loyalty quests for example, that had consequences. Punish me for not doing the grind and exploration of areas, but dont block me by forcing me to. It breaks me getting invested in the story. This would be the major thing… There are some minor stuff as well but that is much more complicated to fix, like boring companions.
oh and if you want me to stay within the DA franchise, origins, if not then me2 (to answer your question)
What about loot? Should the game eliminate loot? That would make it less “grindy”, right? Oh yeah! Eliminate NPCs, too! Talking to them distracts from the main quest. I guess that means eliminating side-quests, too.
Tell you what… Why don’t you just go play God of War? A fine series of games, and it sounds just right for you. Consider that your taste in games is just a far cry from RPGs, and stop claiming this is a bad game, because that… That is just stupid.
1./ Who said the game was bad? please point out where I said that, because as far I as know, I didnt say it was a bad game, I said the game (so far) disappoints me because it is not what I expected from bioware, since the focus has shifted from primarily story driven/linear to open world – and this is damaging storytelling
2./ There is nothing wrong with loot until somebody forces/blocks me for not having something (~gearcheck) in a _story driven single player game_. to make you right in this, I’d say I would probably enjoy a story driven single player campaign without it (just like ME2, that didnt have real loot – only upgrades, but still was the best game for me).
3./ What makes a “role playing game” a role playing game is that you can make the decisions, you decide what you want to do, that should mean that if i want to continue the story without grinding “power” or gear, I should be able to do so. If a role playing game for you is to grind gear, maybe you are the one who should play WoW instead. (which i have for over 3 years, enough grinding and fetch quests for life)
4./ Side quests, same thing and other things you mentioned, all cool if *optional*, I am quite happy to do all of them on a second of third playthrough, like I did with origins, or the me franchise, but not when I want to enjoy the story.
Let me ask you this question, do you enjoy having interrupted by ads while you are watching a movie? would you enjoy it every 10 minutes?
also, please notice i am not the one started the thread 🙂
“oh my dear”
Bioware took a bad turn with this game imo. (havent finished the game yet though, but i am already suffering going through it…)
Looking at it in isolation it is probably a very good game, but apart from the events leading up to skyhold, I still think that this game breaks immersion all over the place.
The beauty of previous bioware games was that you got this almost adventure game feel, that you can always do everything that you feel necessary, that is available. Here you get no such thing, it is like:
– “Let’s go save the wardens”
– “one moment my dear, you dont have enough ‘power’, go kill some wolves or find some blankets for refugees first”
You cannot get invested in a story like this…. being forced into grind in order to continue…
To be fair it is not possible to make anything fast or even medium paced with this game style.
All the activities are sooo mmo-like boring (almost wow level boring)…
– go to these 3-5 places, search for something, or set something up there (1 click)
– go to these 3-5 places and kill stuff there
– take randomly found **** to X place
THAT IS IT, and you get to do all this for nameless uninteresting random npcs 90% of the time
Most conversation options don’t feel like they carry any weight, 99% of the time they seem like saying the same thing just phrasing differently, because 99% of the time all you get is different people approving or disapproving of you saying that… Very little effect on plot or anything
The characters are mostly boring, the only fun one is Sera.
Could go on forever but it is long enough for a comment already
oh, and not to mention, the inquisitor you play yourself, is every bit as boring as most of the companions, no backstory, no investment in the character, no connection … 🙁
I regret buying this game for the Xbox 360. The vast amount of silly rendering and audio bugs, along with ridiculously long loading times make this game almost unplayable for my old gen system. DA2 looks and sounds better than DAI on the 360. I expected to devour this game and play for hours on end like I did with the first two but I can’t get into it at all.
Seems like the first interesting Sword Age Stuff after Skyrim. I’ll probably pick it up, Joe. Thanks for the Preview!
1:You mash 1 button as archer-skill?
2:You run and wait infront of a giant monster then die-That doesnt mean the game is hard.Common sense ppl!
for that boss if someone was trying to kill me i would just run to a teammate to fight it and while a bit away from the boss.Shoot it
There isnt really another option
Seriously. I turned the AI off. I even did the early ram hunting mission in tactical to set up my archer and Varric double teaming with explosive shot.
BOOM! Baaaaa! BOOM! Loot.
Good times. 🙂
Cobra Commander is gleeful right now. Inquisition was my fifth pre-order purchase and once again, I regret doing it. Awakenings. Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect 3, Star Wars: the Old Republic and now Inquisition. Every time, it’s a hassle to get the games going on a PC. The control schemes and gameplay change for the worse while the graphics make you shell out the bucks without thinking. Joe, I loved Bioware, but this Bioware and it’s current staff are the bad guys along with EA’s management team. EA and the current Bioware staff have killed their reputation as quality game makers. No company is perfect, but it’s obvious this version of Bioware is all about grabbing your money and calling it “artistic integrity.”
It’s system heavy or what? Everyone goes evil company style nowadays don’t worry my favorite franchise stabbed me in the heart three and a half times.
I doubted Inquisition will run on my machine so I was willing to wait and tested through subtle means.
No, it’s not that it sucks up a lot of resources (it uses 7GB and I have 16GB RAM), but the UI, the control scheme for the PC and the crazy issues with Nvidia and ATI are game-breaking. DA: Origins and Inquisition controls are as different as night and day. It went from perfect (in my opinion) to just plain horrible. It’s a beautiful game that is a chore to play through. With all the crashing and FPS hiccups, this is simply worse than Dragon Age 2. At least with DA2, I played the game without a steep learning curve. Also, it loaded and played fine. I’m not angry at EA either. Their customer support is freaking awesome. They have helped me overcome each issue, but the game is still crashing and in desperate need of a patch. Bioware admits this and they said they’re working on it. I’m sore because I’m a dummy for buying three straight Bioware products that had terrible launch issues (ME3, SW: Old Republic and DA:I) as preorders. I do it because I have preordered everything before going back to Baldur’s Gate.
I read so much about computer issues and needing a powerful rig I almost passed, but because of the money back guarantee I decided to give it a try. It runs on all “high” options on my 3 year old Alienware x51. Nvidia had a patch the same day the game came out. I loaded it up and started right away with no issues.
I am still in Hinterlands, but the mix of adventuring, war room, interacting with NPCs, crafting, gathering etc. is keeping me entertained and playing for hours at a time.
The tactical map doesn’t zoom out enough, but other than that no complaints on UI or game play. It took about an hour and I was used to how things worked.
There is a ton of stuff going on in this game between plot points, fighting demons, adding camps, searching for shards, searching for other collectable items, closing rifts, saving NPCs, trying to better equip Haven, gathering and improving weapons…
I am impressed. If you are wondering whether to buy or not, I would take advantage of the return policy, wait until you have a full day to buy the game, then buy it, play the heck out of it, and make a decision after that.
You’re right. Once the technical problems were worked out, the game is beautiful and if you can manage to keep playing onto Skyhold, the game really opens up. However, I hate having a console UI for a PC. I’m at Skyhold now, but I still feel the game is still a step backward compared to DA2 and several steps back versus Origins. In my opinion, Bioware is still the master-storyteller, but their UI’s for PCs are terrible. They can make UIs for PCs that are way less tedious and that take advantage of a gaming mouse. The game is tedious to play on a PC and it failed to launch as a preorder so my confidence in Bioware has taken a hit for the third straight time. I would recommend this game for console players, but for PCs, wait for the patch before buying. Just a sidenote, if you have troubles with the game, EA and Origin will call you back and they are pretty good at fixing issues. They’ve done well to invest in their customer service and it has taken out my rage I had for all the technical issues.
Interesting… You seem to be one of a few people I’ve heard of whose 3-4 year old system runs the game with few issues. I wonder why that is?
Okay thanks mate. DA:O is in my opinion the best RPG I’ve ever played (better than Skyrim) and Inquisition seemed that it could fill those shoes I think I can push through a UI change if that is the grand issue.
But in my case that is not the great issue my PC has a Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300, 4GB ram and an NVIDIA GeForce 9500GT so its old well not that old as much as i couldn’t spend much at the time. It simply screams “yo douchebag upgrade me!” But I can’t and I don’t even play that much the last few years just a few franchises DA, Starcraft, Skyrim, some indie title that’s about it. And as software developer I don’t really need a really strong rig it’s just not worth the investment. Seems to me there could be a discussion here about the expense of being a casual PC gamer.
I will wait for a full review is done, and let the price fall a bit, I still have too many other games to play right now and not enough time as it is. The game looks gorgeous though, and I hope you can do the tactical fights more than the FPS.. which I am getting really OD on with so many right now.
I haven’t done any extensive research but i do believe I heard that Inquisition is mostly or partly set in Orlais (home country of Leliana) they are based on medieval France (chivalry mostly) hence forth the french accents even Leliana had a french accent. I believe that is why they have the accent. I don’t think it is an error but actual attention to detail and lore. So yeah I think you should consider this in the review.
As for the boss fight that looked as a rage demon one of the strongest generic units from the fade so lore at the working there looks extremely promising, too bad I wont be able to play until i upgrade my rig few years from now. 🙂
Stay frosty 😉
If this game has good story and doesn’t screw up the ending like ME3 did then i’ll probably buy it
Dude, what do you mean “screw up the ending like ME3”. ME3 was great.
The entire game was the ending of a brilliant series, not just the colorful part. Take it into account.
Apart from the Sci-Fi 101 “How Not To End Your SF Story” ending, the clunky, unpolished level designs, borked side quest system, Tali’Zorah vas Stockphoto, trite unstoppable super weapon pulled out of ass plot, an complete abandonment of established themes and dropped plot threads, yeah, ME3 was great.
unfortunately the story is fragmented, badly paced, and so far not too interesting (havent finished the game yet though, this is based on the first 15 hours of gameplay). If you enjoy being totally invested in a story like me, this game is not really good for that, if you dont mind doing a story related quest between the “exploration” (grreh… grinding) parts, you’ll be fine
Rh, from the comments you wrote so far, i noticed that you see that everything the word “side” on it as grinding.
I infected my PC with Origin based on your preview. Please don’t disappoint me.
Huge DA fan. Glad you got to review the demo. Looks pretty great. I have all DA games on Xbox and PC.
Looking forward to the full-game review, when you get done thoroughly enjoying a full playthrough, that is. ^,^
First comment, but long-time fan. Thanks for doing what you do, Joe. Many hours spent watching almost all your reviews.
Believe I’m getting Inquisition. 😉