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Your opinion on anita sarkeesian?

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Ok so I just watched joe's top 10 gaming controveries and I wondered, what is your opinion on her?

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Anita Sarkeesian does make good points about tropes with women in video games 
that's it

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She makes me feel like this;

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She's just tossing fuel into the fire. She is not starting the arguments as people are saying, she is not making people realize that the tropes against women is bad and so forth. She is doing one thing, and one thing only - aiming the spotlight on her because she wants her fifteen minutes of fame. That, is my opinion about her, and her so-called feminist agenda - A self-centered hypocrite. 

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Honestly? I have never cared, and probably will never care about her... I watched about a video or two in the past, but never actually got through the whole thing due to lack of interest... Joe has a good point, aswell. Women have the right to fight for themselves. That includes video games. (None of my business if they're doing it properly, though!). As long as Anita isn't trying to damage video games in a way that'll damage our enjoyment, I'm good... That being said, ass and tits shouldn't be the focal point of a game, no matter what genre.

 

PS. Strong women ftw.

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I don't mind her, i'm sensible enough to avoid watching her and that makes me happy.

 

However.....

 

This is what people who keep talking about her make me feel like....

 

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Said it before and i'll say it again......

 

At one point she had a small following. Hardly anyone had heard of her and the world carried on great.

 

All of a sudden the absolute fuckwits of the internet thought it would be a good idea to threaten her with rape, beatings and plaster her name all over the place.

 

I don't blame Anita one bit for all the shit that happened, I blame the dick heads that won't shut up about her. They made her famous, they gave her the spotlight and they made themselves look like absolute wankers while doing it.

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Who?  Honestly, I'm so sick of hearing this argument. You know the problem with feminists? They scream EQUALITY EQUALITY EQUALITY. Then demand special treatment as soon as sex becomes involved in any way.

 

Nobody is out there saying "OMG IM SO SICK OF MEN BEING PORTRAYED IN VIDEO GAMES AS MUSCLE BOUND HEROES WHERES THE FAT NERD MAIN CHARACTERS"  

 

Like honestly......it's 2014, time to get over it.

 

Edit: I just want to add, I have utmost respect for women, I'm almost 30 years old and I still avert my eyes when I walk past the bras and panties isle at walmart. Also, I have no idea who this woman is, I am just  making an assumption based on what I read here. Never heard of her before today.

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I don't care about her.

 

She could be advocating that people bomb orphanages, and I still wouldn't care about her.

 

At the end of the day, she's just an attention-happy wannabe celebrity with a video camera, desperate to make herself relevant by stirring up controversy, no more, no less.

 

And I honestly can't be motivated to give a damn about someone like that.

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to be honest and i'm a guy, i'm on the side of aj. beside Nintendo as always play the card lady in distress and it's not new. exemple the fairy tales. besides i loves games when you can create you love Relationship like mass effect or dragon age. THATS fucking awesome !!!! But when it come like sorry i got just this exemple god of war or the video game with the bike dudes, it's totally retard for me. for the feminist, their have the right to defend their point of view time they don't want to boycut the product just sensibilise the population. thats how we can make a big difference. 

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If the tables were turned and men were sex symbols and women were the largest market for games, she wouldn't say a word. She's a hypocrite, a fraud, and a sexist.

 

Her idea of a strong female character is a female that acts like a man and stands toe-to-toe with men physically. That's horribly unrealistic and naive. 

 

Disclaimer: I've never actually watched one of her videos. Since she's a "feminist" I attach to her the views of modern feminism. 

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Who?  Honestly, I'm so sick of hearing this argument. You know the problem with feminists? They scream EQUALITY EQUALITY EQUALITY. Then demand special treatment as soon as sex becomes involved in any way.

 

Nobody is out there saying "OMG IM SO SICK OF MEN BEING PORTRAYED IN VIDEO GAMES AS MUSCLE BOUND HEROES WHERES THE FAT NERD MAIN CHARACTERS"  

 

Like honestly......it's 2014, time to get over it.

 

Edit: I just want to add, I have utmost respect for women, I'm almost 30 years old and I still avert my eyes when I walk past the bras and panties isle at walmart. Also, I have no idea who this woman is, I am just  making an assumption based on what I read here. Never heard of her before today.

I completely agree with you except the part about averting eyes.

This is why I refuse to call myself a feminist - I am a Humanist, and a Transhumanist, because I am for equal rights of punching a man in the face and punching a woman in the face should give the same sentence and not be classified as genderXpunch. That and it's rid- I'll stop talking about it here before I go off a tangent.

 

 

If the tables were turned and men were sex symbols and women were the largest market for games, she wouldn't say a word. She's a hypocrite, a fraud, and a sexist.

 

Her idea of a strong female character is a female that acts like man and stands toe-to-toe with men physically. That's horribly unrealistic and naive. 

 

Disclaimer: I've never actually watched one of her videos. Since she's a "feminist" I attach to her the views of modern feminism. 

It's not unrealistic and naive to think that a woman can be toe-to-toe with a man physically but it takes a certain kind of woman to do so.

However she's been going against herself by saying that she is against the ideal of a woman acting like a man and then she creates that exact same character  :rolleyes:

 

She is one of those borderline radical-feminists.

Not entirely overboard but almost.

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Ok there was another thread about it but I don't see a big reason to delete this, but let's be careful here people, not turn this in to a pile of nonesense.

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Nobody is out there saying "OMG IM SO SICK OF MEN BEING PORTRAYED IN VIDEO GAMES AS MUSCLE BOUND HEROES WHERES THE FAT NERD MAIN CHARACTERS"

I am.

 

I also don't like skimpy outfits in video games (see my recently posted screenshots of my GW2 Engineer for how skimpy I'll (generally) go).

Joe's rant about how women are portrayed in video games in said video is very close to my own opinion. I'm not disgusted by the fact breasts are shown in video games, I just hate how a lot of the time it seems to be too major a tool for attracting people (not just men) to play it.

 

EDIT: In fact, the picture of Freyja in my sig is a good example too. One of the characters in my novel is based on this picture.

 

 

Examples:

Lightning's boob job (When I quit playing FFXIII, it was not because I thought Lightning's chest wasn't big enough. Anyways, I prefer Fang...)

 

Her idea of a strong female character is a female that acts like a man and stands toe-to-toe with men physically. That's horribly unrealistic and naive. 

Really? That explains a lot.

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Ok there was another thread about it but I don't see a big reason to delete this, but let's be careful here people, not turn this in to a pile of nonesense.

Or the threads could be merged to consolidate all arguments presented in one place.

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Or the threads could be merged to consolidate all arguments presented in one place.

That is also a possibility, I am not sure how that works exactly, but if a moderator fins that desireable then they are probably going to do it anyway xD

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That is also a possibility, I am not sure how that works exactly, but if a moderator fins that desireable then they are probably going to do it anyway xD

It's your thread, just ask a Mod to merge it with the old one.

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Today is first time i heard of her. Probably i am ignorant, but what did she do? I don' t have time to research about her.

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Today is first time i heard of her. Probably i am ignorant, but what did she do? I don' t have time to research about her.

She is a feminist who made a highly controversial series on youtube that was kickstarted, and many people disagreed with her. A lot. Later you can watch AJ´s top 10 gaming controversies and you will find something on her

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It's not unrealistic and naive to think that a woman can be toe-to-toe with a man physically but it takes a certain kind of woman to do so.

However she's been going against herself by saying that she is against the ideal of a woman acting like a man and then she creates that exact same character  :rolleyes:

 

She is one of those borderline radical-feminists.

Not entirely overboard but almost.

I mean in general. There are always exceptions, though. There's no issue with female characters acting masculine in games. But if that's your idea of a realistic female character, I'll have to disagree. Courage and strength of character isn't exclusive to masculinity. I want to see more strong female characters rather than strong characters who are female.

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Courage and strength of character isn't exclusive to masculinity. I want to see more strong female characters rather than strong characters who are female.

So you basically just want characters were their gender plays more of a role in to how they act? Or do you mean you want more developed and couragous female characters, rather than those who just posses physical strength? sorry if I misunderstood you.
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Been watching Angry Joe for quite a while now but never thought of registering until now. I've watched some, not all, of Anita's videos and I agree that the male gaming population can be very aggressive towards her. The issue that male gamers have with her is not that we are afraid she will take away our games and porn, but that she received over $150,000.00 to create her own videos that showcase the points she's trying to make and yet dropped the ball. 

 

She made her own videos but used other gamers videos without stating that the footage was not hers. While this is just plain wrong it also gives people the idea that she is a gamer. People from outside of our community have criticized the same issues she's trying to for years and this was the first time gamers thought someone from inside the community would shed some light on these issues and would be taken more seriously. However we found that Anita was not an avid gamer like our community and the others outside our community thought she was. She states she loves playing video games on her kickstarter yet didn't play the games to get a sense of the characters she was critiquing and why they act that way or dress that way.

 

As a male gamer I could care less if the lead is female or male as long as it fits the story the designer/developer is trying to achieve. This should be the biggest concern to the industry not if the lead character is a boy or a girl. 

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I mean in general. There are always exceptions, though. There's no issue with female characters acting masculine in games. But if that's your idea of a realistic female character, I'll have to disagree. Courage and strength of character isn't exclusive to masculinity. I want to see more strong female characters rather than strong characters who are female.

I agree. I still value Samus as one of the strongest female characters there is alongside Ellen Ripley or vice versa.

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 Later you can watch AJ´s top 10 gaming controversies and you will find something on her

It's for that reason I won't be watching it.

 

Not interested in hearing any more about her after all the shit that happened last time.

 

Every time her name is mentioned it starts up a debate like this and it never ... ever ... goes well. She just needs to be forgotten and Joe would have been better served just skipping her by.

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The problem with her is, that she sells some of her stuff as scientific, while it's in fact political. And well, she enjoys playing the victim of youtube trolls way to much. And probably our interpretations of feminism would differ quite a lot. But other than that, I kind of even like some of her videos. 

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