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Svyaga

Diablo 3 - RoS weird preorder policy!

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Greetings, Angry Joe Army!

 

Title of the thread may seem offensive, but, as we say in Russia: "In every joke there is a portion of joke"!

As we know (except Blizzard/Diablo 3 fans who just enjoy(ed) the game, there is nothing wrong about it, but I write my own opinion), Blizzard pretty much failed Diablo 3. Now they are going to release an expansion called Reaper of Souls (RoS), which can improve the game, and I'm really excited about it.

 

So this is what we have now:

 

USA preorder:

1) Standart edition = 39.99$

2) Deluxe edition   = 59.99$

3) Game available (both preorder and release) - 3/25/2014

 

EU preorder:

1) Standart edition = 39.99€ = ~55$

2) Deluxe edition   = 59.99€ = ~83$

3) Game available (both preorder and release) - 3/25/2014

 

For Russia/CIS it seems pretty normal as well:

 

Russia/CIS preorder:

1) Standart edition = 1799 rub = ~56$

2) Deluxe edition   = 2699 rub = ~84$

3) Game available (preorder only) - 3/25/2014

 

But now something smelly starts:

 

Russa/CIS release:

1) Standart edition = 899 rub = ~28$

2) Deluxe edition   = 1499 rub = ~47$

3) Game available (buying in stores) - 4/15/2014 (3 weeks after preorder edition is available for play)

 

Now the questions. Tried to make them in right sequence:

- Why can't I preorder RoS for these 28$ to start playing on March instead of waiting for 3 weeks?

Even if there are some delays with RoS shipment (or some other reason), why preorder costs 50% more? (I could understand some price increase in stores because of some shipment taxes and etc., but not the preorder!)

- Let's look at it from other side: how it comes, that the game costs 50% less in just 3 weeks?

- Why (Let's say europeans) even have to pay these 50% extra without such discount in 3 weeks?

- Why do Blizzard split Diablo community by policy called "Pay 50% more or wait 3 weeks more"? (Well, this statement about splitting community is not 100% right, but still because of this policy there will be a noticeable difference)

 

There are adequate answers for each of these questions separately, but for the overall situation I can only make some guesses. Some of them may be false, but I think at least some of them hit the mark:

 

1) Blizzard want to get as much money as they can, because everyone want to play RoS as early as they can (because even updates like "paragon 2.0", "loot 2.0" are useless without RoS. So without it Diablo 3 is even more dead than before, since everyone are going to swith to RoS either way).

2) There actually can be a discount for EU (and probably US), but Blizzard just don't announce (read guess №1).

3) Blizzard are removing real money auction house from Diablo 3, so they will lose quite large profit. That's why... (guess №1 again).

4) Blizzard are having some problems with servers capacity, so they both get more money from preorders and partially solve this problem (which is unnaceptable if I'm right about this guess, I mean to solve their own problems by limiting our possibilities + even getting more profit).

5) Blizzard are having some problems with shipment to Russia, so they made such a policy to get as much profit from it as they can.

6) Now a positive guess: game will cost 50% less in april because it's kind of an excuse for a 3 months delay. But still it's just an another guess. And I still don't understand why there is such a delay just for Russia/CIS when even for Korea and Taiwan there isn't, I think it's should be harder to ship the RoS discs there than to Russia.

 

This is all what came to my mind, but maybe there is something else to it.

I know, that some of you will agree with them without reason (and I accept this, even if I don't understand this) and some of you are ready to pay (or just can afford the price), but it doesn't mean, that Blizzard are right doing this.

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Dang that's real messed up. Still... if I were Russian, I would be able to wait till the game actually gets released so I could buy it for a better price. Such policy would encourage me to ALWAYS wait, no matter what game it is. I mean I don't mind waiting 3 weeks so I can shave off something of the retail price ( a roughly -50%). Plus another added bonus of this scenario is the fact that by the time you get it, the rest of the world have been playing it for 3 weeks. Therefore discovered bugs & glitches by this audience might be patched out. 

But still, you're right, it gives a weird impression... 

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Some of the pricing differences between the US and Europien/Russian markets can be explained by different tax brackets for imports and currency inflation. That's also why the 8th gen consoles, games and... well pretty much everything made outside of our rejoin costs more on paper than in the US.

 

As for Blizzard and Diablo 3, this does seem odd and I'm having a hard time fully understanding it, but as far can tell the pre-order packages are a different shipment and manufacturing batch (Like the X Box One Day One Edition, for example). I will admit that doesn't explain why the Russian ports of the game outside the pre-order are taking that much longer to ship. You could be right in that it's an incentive to by the pre-order, but once again if that's the case why isn't that happening everywhere? All, round, I just feel like thee is some sort of information I'm missing.

 

Could it have something to do with regional lockout? I was under the impression that Russia technically wasn't part of any region, so could affect things?

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Dang that's real messed up. Still... if I were Russian, I would be able to wait till the game actually gets released so I could buy it for a better price. Such policy would encourage me to ALWAYS wait, no matter what game it is. I mean I don't mind waiting 3 weeks so I can shave off something of the retail price ( a roughly -50%). Plus another added bonus of this scenario is the fact that by the time you get it, the rest of the world have been playing it for 3 weeks. Therefore discovered bugs & glitches by this audience might be patched out. 

But still, you're right, it gives a weird impression... 

Well I understand your point of view, and agree, that even this situation has pros and cons.

But (for example) I don't want to wait for 3 weeks, I really love Diablo franchise and I'm so excited about the expansion, but also don't want to pay 50% extra. I'll be glad to play earlier to test it and find bugs and get Blizzard fix them, so I can help to make the game better :) But they leave me no choice but to wait (well they do, but it's not a choice at all at the same time).

And what if I had friends in EU? Well they can powerlevel me in 3 weeks or smth like that, but it still splits the RU Diablo community from others in terms of game progression very much.

Some of the pricing differences between the US and Europien/Russian markets can be explained by different tax brackets for imports and currency inflation. That's also why the 8th gen consoles, games and... well pretty much everything made outside of our rejoin costs more on paper than in the US.

 

As for Blizzard and Diablo 3, this does seem odd and I'm having a hard time fully understanding it, but as far can tell the pre-order packages are a different shipment and manufacturing batch (Like the X Box One Day One Edition, for example). I will admit that doesn't explain why the Russian ports of the game outside the pre-order are taking that much longer to ship. You could be right in that it's an incentive to by the pre-order, but once again if that's the case why isn't that happening everywhere? All, round, I just feel like thee is some sort of information I'm missing.

 

Could it have something to do with regional lockout? I was under the impression that Russia technically wasn't part of any region, so could affect things?

Well I don't mind that prices in EU and Russia are a bit larger than US ones (even almost 40% is understandable as it is), I know the stuff about taxes and etc.

But then the actual release should cost more (even if it's 50%), not the preorder! (I mean RU one).

It's just an ordinary online purchase without any shipment or taxes stuff. You buy the game, download it from internet and play.

And even if we imagine that there will be shipment of preorder packages, there can't be a 50% difference in taxes in just 3 weeks, can it?

 

No, it couldn't. RU = EU in terms of servers and etc. No difference at all. You can say that Russia is part of EU for Diablo 3, but just has different shipment time and prices (It got even more weird, didn't it?).

 

And your question "why isn't it happening everywhere?" I made another guess:

5) Blizzard are having some problems with shipment to Russia, so they made such a policy to get as much profit from it as they can.

I don't think that I guessed right, but I think it's somehow connected to the actual reason.

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Well I understand your point of view, and agree, that even this situation has pros and cons.

But (for example) I don't want to wait for 3 weeks, I really love Diablo franchise and I'm so excited about the expansion, but also don't want to pay 50% extra. I'll be glad to play earlier to test it and find bugs and get Blizzard fix them, so I can help to make the game better :) But they leave me no choice but to wait (well they do, but it's not a choice at all at the same time).

And what if I had friends in EU? Well they can powerlevel me in 3 weeks or smth like that, but it still splits the RU Diablo community from others in terms of game progression very much.

Well I don't mind that prices in EU and Russia are a bit larger than US ones (even almost 40% is understandable as it is), I know the stuff about taxes and etc.

But then the actual release should cost more (even if it's 50%), not the preorder! (I mean RU one).

It's just an ordinary online purchase without any shipment stuff. You buy the game, download it from internet and play.

And even if we imagine that here will be shipment of preorder packages, there can't be a 50% difference in taxes in just 3 weeks, can it?

 

No, it couldn't. RU = EU in terms of servers and etc. No difference at all. You can say that Russia is part of EU, but just has different shipment time and prices (It got even more weird, didn't it?).

 

Well I guess I'm still baffled then. Either you have my sympathies for this.

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Well I guess I'm still baffled then. Either you have my sympathies for this.

Thanks!

If only Joe could make a "FAIL" video about this stuff, always loved these :D I think this situation deserves such a video  :D .

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Well I understand your point of view, and agree, that even this situation has pros and cons.

But (for example) I don't want to wait for 3 weeks, I really love Diablo franchise and I'm so excited about the expansion, but also don't want to pay 50% extra. I'll be glad to play earlier to test it and find bugs and get Blizzard fix them, so I can help to make the game better :) But they leave me no choice but to wait (well they do, but it's not a choice at all at the same time).

And what if I had friends in EU? Well they can powerlevel me in 3 weeks or smth like that, but it still splits the RU Diablo community from others in terms of game progression very much.

Hence the reason why I got BF4 on day 1 and look where that brought me... nowhere. Still Diablo isn't BF, that's for sure. I understand your point, but still... If you plan to play this game with friends you know IRL, you could convince them to wait together 3 weeks. If they are online friends, you could explain them this weird phenomenon. They will understand it, maybe they'll even restart the game together with you by creating a new character (that's why I did in Diablo3 a couple of times :) ) In the end I ended up with a Wizard, Barbarian, Witch Doktor & Monk  :lol:

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Hence the reason why I got BF4 on day 1 and look where that brought me... nowhere. Still Diablo isn't BF, that's for sure. I understand your point, but still... If you plan to play this game with friends you know IRL, you could convince them to wait together 3 weeks. If they are online friends, you could explain them this weird phenomenon. They will understand it, maybe they'll even restart the game together with you by creating a new character (that's why I did in Diablo3 a couple of times :) ) In the end I ended up with a Wizard, Barbarian, Witch Doktor & Monk  :lol:

Even if there are ways to bypass the situation it doesn't mean that the situation itself is right=)

And why should we even find such ways?

I was just a small example, but there are many others.

And (for another example) I don't want my EU friends to split from their own community (I mean EU) in terms of progression just for me. I don't think every US and EU guy will wait for 3 weeks, right?

I understand you point of view but in this thread I just want to look at it from other perspective. Not "What ways will be best to bypass this policy?" but "How did it come up to this? What was the reason?". I really want to know the reason and wish we get most realistic answer in discussion  :) .

 

P.S. I already have 60 lvl on every class (well only DH is lvl 53)  :D .

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Even if there are ways to bypass the situation it doesn't mean that the situation itself is right=)

And why should we even find such ways?

I was just a small example, but there are many others.

And (for another example) I don't want my EU friends to split from their own community (I mean EU) in terms of progression just for me. I don't think every US and EU guy will wait for 3 weeks, right?

I understand you point of view but in this thread I just want to look at it from other perspective. Not "What ways will be best to bypass this policy?" but "How did it come up to this? What was the reason?". I really want to know the reason and wish we get most realistic answer in discussion  :) .

 

P.S. I already have 60 lvl on every class (well only DH is lvl 53)  :D .

Have you ever contacted their costumer service to find out the real reasons? After all it's Blizzard, I contacted their service a couple of times regarding Starcraft 2 and I was very pleased with their replies and understanding. :) 

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Have you ever contacted their costumer service to find out the real reasons? After all it's Blizzard, I contacted their service a couple of times regarding Starcraft 2 and I was very pleased with their replies and understanding. :)

I didn't, but I don't think they will say something against their own policy  :) .

Even though they can give quite reasonable reasons, there is still no guarantee that they will be real ones, same as my guesses.

Well still I maybe should try this. I'll write the answer if I do it.

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