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Aragorn195

My biggest problem with Skyrim

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Light up your torches, sharpen your pitchforks, because I am gonna complain about something in Skyrim.

 

Okay, now with the little fun intro thing out of the way, lets get down to business. Skyrim, I'll start out with saying that I dont hate it I do like it, its just... the most fun I had in the game was attacking/defending Whiterun. Its the civil war quest line that interest me most. But its so one-sided. You take/hold Whiterun and then you take a few forts before you take Solitude/Windhelm. The End. And yes, I know you got the blackmail and messanger things aswell, but they are minor things.

 

I want more out of it. They could've added a strategic element to it. Where to attack, where to focus on defence. Having to defend forts. Just taken a fort and preparing to take another? Oh dear, it seems like your new won prize is under attack. There could've been a tug of war, 2 forts were attacked at the same time, gotta decide which one is worth the most to save. Maybe even resources, gold from gold mines. Ores and ingots for crafting from other mines. Upgrade your troops with better equipments.

 

And the biggest annoyance I have is, it the FIRST thing introduced to us in the game. "Ulfric Stormcloak? You're the leader of the Rebellion" "General Tulius, the military governor". These are the first characters to be introduced to us. They are the biggest characters in the Civil War. They are introduced BEFORE the dragon is. One of the first quests you get when getting out of Helgen is to join the Stormcloaks/Legion. Wasnt the Civil War supposed to be visible in Skyrim. Unless you follow the quest line, all you'll see is patrols or prisoner escorts.

 

And dont get me wrong, I like the main quest line, its just I like taking the forts and fighting other people in a war more than I like hacking away at the feet/wing/tail/head of a dragon with it not even reacting to it.

 

Now that I've said what I had to say I'll just step in this shower for some tar and feather. I started on a joke, I'll end it on a joke.

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*Unsheaths deadric sword* For the glory of Skyrim !!! (just kidding) 

Anyway, it's just your opinion, your entitled to it as long as you don't attack anyone in the process.   

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Do you play Skyrim on PC?

 

Then here is your cure:

 

 

Huge battles and you can conquer more towns/forts

1. If you wear imperial armor then Stormcloaks attack you and vice versa

2. You can conquer more towns and forts

3. It fixes AI

ex: Archers stay back and shoot arrows, others attack you on front and overall smarter AI

4. Adds mages, giants and other things for each faction

5. Improves overall combat

6. Adds dialogue orginally removed from the game

7. The war isn't linear, you can't always win it. Lose too many battles and you lose the war

8. Battles can be HUGE sometimes and there are battlefields that generate at random times where Stormcloaks and Imperials fight each other

 

Overall the mod adds everything that you wanted in your post. Dynamic battles, win/lose, you get a letter once a town/fort of the faction you are in gets attacked and then you have to defend it, you attack new towns/forts, retake them back and so on. It's all done through quests in your journal.

 

That's the mod when it got released years ago, now there is tons of more content in it

And much much more.

 

This mod is custom but also adds a lot of things to the game that were there but never got released.

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Apex Spartan gives you a great choice of a mod.  I have used that one a lot.  There are many other mods that can enhance the civil war questline.  One of them also lets YOU as the player choose what person will be the Jarl's in the places you take.

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*Unsheaths deadric sword* For the glory of Skyrim !!! (just kidding) 

Anyway, it's just your opinion, your entitled to it as long as you don't attack anyone in the process.   

*Raises shield and unsheats sword* Come at me bro!

 

Do you play Skyrim on PC?

 

Then here is your cure:

 

 

Huge battles and you can conquer more towns/forts

1. If you wear imperial armor then Stormcloaks attack you and vice versa

2. You can conquer more towns and forts

3. It fixes AI

ex: Archers stay back and shoot arrows, others attack you on front and overall smarter AI

4. Adds mages, giants and other things for each faction

5. Improves overall combat

6. Adds dialogue orginally removed from the game

7. The war isn't linear, you can't always win it. Lose too many battles and you lose the war

8. Battles can be HUGE sometimes and there are battlefields that generate at random times where Stormcloaks and Imperials fight each other

 

Overall the mod adds everything that you wanted in your post. Dynamic battles, win/lose, you get a letter once a town/fort of the faction you are in gets attacked and then you have to defend it, you attack new towns/forts, retake them back and so on. It's all done through quests in your journal.

 

That's the mod when it got released years ago, now there is tons of more content in it

And much much more.

 

This mod is custom but also adds a lot of things to the game that were there but never got released.

OMG! *Mind blown* Downloading as Im piecing my head back together.

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If you enjoy the game without mods then it's a good game.

If you only enjoy the game with mods on then it's simply a polished turd.

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If you enjoy the game without mods then it's a good game.

If you only enjoy the game with mods on then it's simply a polished turd.

With mods, the game is what it should have been since many mods added something other games like Skyrim have/have not and made it 20x better. Also mods which fixed 100s of bugs that Bethesda failed too.

 

The default game is great but with mods it's majestic.

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I agree with everyone in this topic except chimtastic. Just because mods make Skyrim better, that doesn't mean the base game can't still be good. It was an excellent game in so many ways but I ran mine with plenty of mods for plenty of different things. One of these is the civil war mod that AS linked to as I think Aragorn is quite right about this practically invisible civil war. I mean seriously, by the time you've levelled up you don't even need to take sides, just kill them all and take Skyrim for yourself :P

 

Good point, and good mod ;)

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Skyrim was/is a great game in vanilla. It was fun to run through the first time as a rebel. Second time was a bit meh as imperial (only the re starting the game, thats one long as opening sequence of a cart ride + tutorial battle..). But the game is superb still, adding mods just makes a great thing more enjoyable to replay.

 

Case in point, Rome TW (the first one) great game even now, with mods, its been replayed by me to death  (maybe 3k hours i last checked) (Skyrim i think im on 460ish so yeah as far as value goes.. perfect game)

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I love this game, But I don't have the time to play it.

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The Cutting Room.  A mod that takes all the unactivated content thats within bethesda's own files inside skyrim and adds those dialog/quests into the game.  College quest line is extended out a lot.   Just be warned, Cutting Room has a lot of conflicts with other mods just looke at the compatable/uncompatable sections of mod pages.

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The Cutting Room.  A mod that takes all the unactivated content thats within bethesda's own files inside skyrim and adds those dialog/quests into the game.  College quest line is extended out a lot.   Just be warned, Cutting Room has a lot of conflicts with other mods just looke at the compatable/uncompatable sections of mod pages.

This, must be tried. i had to do a clean install way back but was worth it at the time.

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If you enjoy the game without mods then it's a good game.

If you only enjoy the game with mods on then it's simply a polished turd.

Have to disagree,

I like cosmetic mods Armor, weapons, hair, body's, tattoo's etc.

I think thats one reason I think Dragon Age Inquisition is the most boring game ive ever played. I got to skyhold once and talked to Hawke and quit playing BORING. Havent played since.

Mods that fix the bugs the developer left in the game are also very helpful.

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Should check out the mod they have for Skyrim that puts DA I's dragons/monsters into Skyrim.  Is great.   fyi, wont find it on nexus because nexus mods are $%! 's

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Should check out the mod they have for Skyrim that puts DA I's dragons/monsters into Skyrim.  Is great.   fyi, wont find it on nexus because nexus mods are $%! 's

Isnt nexus just for the naked mods :P

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I currently have over 100 mods running with my skyrim, half of course being performance/graphical improvements...seen those sexy pictures where it almost looks real well that can be achieved. The other half being more towards roleplaying/story/tweaks to improve the immersion of the world. 

 

To start off I would recommend joining Nexus forums and looking up the many guides, modder sections and etc to help guide you to a better skyrim experience, also note that if you want to push the game to it's limit you will need a powerful computer and time to read each mod as they can conflict with each other causing the game not to run but if you take the time it can make all the difference.

There is so much to improve the game overall for example (these aren't the real names of the mod, Can't remember them :( but they aren't hard to find in skyrim nexus site)

 

1. Carts - there is a mod that adds working carts as mounts, want to store items on the go then you can bring your cart along and load it up...it also works with companions (more then one ) they will ride in the front and back depending on the cart you use however it is glitchy sometimes so be careful. 

 

2. Enjoy the ride - you can get a mod where  you ride with the taxi cart guy and listen to stories or just sit back and enjoy the ride. 

3. Nude- ya....it's popular though

 

4. Real guards - want guards to act like guards, this one allows you to steal uniforms unseen and guards will treat you like one of them...heck if you are running from the law just change your outfit and they will lose sight of you as long as your not in their sight when you change. They also have more realistic sights so running around a corner and then up some stairs might lose their search

 

5. Thief set - this has ropes and water arrows that work, you can fire ropes into towers and climb them or if you want to be stealth like...use the water arrow and knock out the torches.

 

6. monster mod - I believe MM or MMM, the group that does this mod has done an awesome job as they have worked on a oblivion version , fall out series and more with their mod. What it does is takes your level into account, it also chances their behavior and spawns more unique types for example you might find a snow troll...then down the roll a rock troll that is more aggressive. Also bosses are tweaked such as dragons will use more unique attacks..and best of all it adds a new faction system which puts everyone at odds for example wolves will attack anything in their territory even other wolves if they aren't apart of their pack.

 

7. Boss mod - This increases the difficulty on all dragons and other bosses, dragons will now pick you up even when your mounted and drop you off at a nice location in which I mean from a 1000 foot drop to your doom.. ENJOY :)

 

8. Traveling Npcs - This is neat it adds random npcs to the world travelling , some will be doing adventures like you , some hunting and others just acting like their real people. Hell if you follow some they will go on a daily life such as hunt for food on mondays, travel to Whiterun on tuesday to listen to the crazy man and etc. 

 

9. Legionnaire Mod - This allows you if you join the Imperial forces, to control a base camp, upgrade defenses , give soldiers orders and missions even use some as companions. 

 

10. City Builder- This is an awesome mod and I will try to find the real name for you, it allows you to build a city and even declare it to a faction be it imperial , storm cloaks or blades .  You build walls, get guards and even fight off raiders and invaders. 

 

There is so much you just have to take the time to look through them all. If your really curious, just go through nexus most popular mods will have gameplay/trailers showing their features. If you want a good list of mods just check skyrim nexus main page and there is usually a few recommend youtubers that aim mainly on showing gamers good mods to try out. Best of luck..

P.S there was a mod that added catapults and other weapons during the city battles, not sure if it was removed or if I obtained it from a private community site but will check. It basically allows you to use siege weapons on the cities during that part of the quest, there is also more enemy soldiers such as mounted and high level bodyguards and better roadblocks.  

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There is no " Mod Limit ".  Nexus mod manager will not allow over 250 active mods.  I had a set up for about 6 months where I had over 320 active mods running.  

 

ViralBunny, no Nexus only has a " very small " selection of adult oriented mods.  I know where to get a crapload more then what Nexus has, most of the adult mods for skyrim on Nexus came from this other site they just ported it into nexus as a different user name.  Other site has adult and regular mods for Skyrim, Fallout 3/NV, Oblivion, and many others including the Sims games.  Just a fyi, do NOT ask me for the link for the site unless you are prepaired to see some really messed up stuff, but on the other hand this site also hosts the translated mods that come out of the EU/Asian mod sites, ones that Nexus refuses to allow on their site due to copyrights and just being total dicks about stuff.

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So Civil War Overhaul seemed VERY buggy, and it was a mess to install. So many mods it required. But...

 

9. Legionnaire Mod - This allows you if you join the Imperial forces, to control a base camp, upgrade defenses , give soldiers orders and missions even use some as companions. 

 

10. City Builder- This is an awesome mod and I will try to find the real name for you, it allows you to build a city and even declare it to a faction be it imperial , storm cloaks or blades .  You build walls, get guards and even fight off raiders and invaders.

...these mods seem interesting. I'll look into it when I've killed Alduin. So close now.

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There is no " Mod Limit ".  Nexus mod manager will not allow over 250 active mods.  I had a set up for about 6 months where I had over 320 active mods running.  

 

ViralBunny, no Nexus only has a " very small " selection of adult oriented mods.  I know where to get a crapload more then what Nexus has, most of the adult mods for skyrim on Nexus came from this other site they just ported it into nexus as a different user name.  Other site has adult and regular mods for Skyrim, Fallout 3/NV, Oblivion, and many others including the Sims games.  Just a fyi, do NOT ask me for the link for the site unless you are prepaired to see some really messed up stuff, but on the other hand this site also hosts the translated mods that come out of the EU/Asian mod sites, ones that Nexus refuses to allow on their site due to copyrights and just being total dicks about stuff.

:) nexus is where i put my mods.. cough. :) sorry hard to have an inside joke when only i know about it lol.

 

 

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On another note i didnt know about the city building mod.. must take a look see.

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So Civil War Overhaul seemed VERY buggy, and it was a mess to install. So many mods it required. But...

 

...these mods seem interesting. I'll look into it when I've killed Alduin. So close now.

Here they are for you :D

City Builder (alpha) 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50097/?

 

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Real Settler Mod (another city builder which has the faction system and all that, however I'm not sure how far they are with the progress I know they had to take a few steps back due to coding issues, there is also the link to the fallout version of this in the link)

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12683/?

 

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Tundra Defense (something you might enjoy, has a tower defense while building a small outpost)

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/22330/?

 

 

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True Imperial Legion Camp (this is where you run a imperial camp)

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/9099/?

 

 

There you, enjoy guys. There is a bunch more out there :D

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Do NOT use Tundra Defense if you have the Expanded Towns and Cities mod, royally screws up your game.  Unless you are familiar with code and can change a few placements on your own.

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Do NOT use Tundra Defense if you have the Expanded Towns and Cities mod, royally screws up your game.  Unless you are familiar with code and can change a few placements on your own.

Used Expanded Towns and Cities with Tundra and haven't had any conflict yet. Expanded Towns/cities shouldn't conflict with Tundra as tundra is a self position mod meaning nothing is placed in the game world to conflict spawns/buildings, it does however add a few npcs and dialogue to them but those shouldn't conflict with Expanded Towns/cities as they are in default buildings aka inn and shop.

 

However make sure you are following both installation guides carefully as you need to put the mod in a certain load order (this isn't done by Mod Manager and even though it may seem like it does, you still need to make sure the load order is set proper), also make sure to have any UI mods that is required as any mod requiring certain mods especially UI made can mess up your game BIG TIME (good example is SKSE which a lot of mods like Tundra needs, if it isn't there the mod will crash your game a lot, make sure to keep SKSE updated with the mod updates as well if one is out dated from the other it will also cause problems. 

 

Also I wouldn't recommend changing/editing any of the mods without a good deal of knowledge over modding and the mod itself, any edits to mods could cause problems and even ruin future updates as you might need to do a fresh clean install which are a pain. If you are experiencing trouble with Tundra and Expanded towns, make sure to turn all other mods off besides the two mods, then start a fresh game and see if the problem continues. If it doesn't then it could be a load order issue or another mod conflict, if it does try each mod by itself and see if it works, if both mods work on their own but just not together then let either Expanded Towns or Tundra creator know as both are really great individuals and will try to look into it if a lot are requesting it. Again just make sure you have all required mods,scripts and programs for the mod itself, Tundra I know requires SKSE which is often missed as a lot just install the mod files without reading the instillation list, this alone will give you a headache, also if your a heavy mod user like me there are mods that will force push the game to run and will flag issues and which mods are causing them which will help you avoid the deadly mass uninstalling/digging through mods finding the problem. 

 

My advice though if your planning on heavy modding the game, just do one mod at a time, and work in these steps:

1. Find mod 

2. Install mod

3. Play game (if works your good to go for next mod)

4. If step 3 is working then move to the next mod and repeat. If game crashes or doesn't load then you know it was the last mod installed. 

5. It may be painful but Mod manager isn't the best program to auto arrange/fix modding issues, I had to change load orders a lot of times just to make sure a few graphic mods didn't conflict each other...so strange that one load order different could mess up your game.

 

Good luck and happy Skyrim modding :D

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I love this game, I has given me 180 hours of endless fun and many more to come, but good post

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The simple answer is to 

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One play through i did (relatively quickly last week) was with only 1 mod, sophia the fully voiced companion. Even on a vanilla game, just 1 mod can make it worth playing again. Thats how good this game is, play as many vanilla storys as diff races/genders then add a mod, gets replay value, add more imersive mods, add more content mods add story enhancing mods (the one where the guy rebuilt the civil war from the ground up basically (cant recall the name)).

 

The fallouts and oblivion were ok with mods, but you felt like you needed a ton of mods for more replay value. Skyrim although i wont lie its starting to feel a bit blah for me after god knows how many times i played through (its the combat tbh.. ), it doesnt need much to keep it "fresh".

 

Though as stated above, if you can mod it until its almost gonna crash its gonna eat up weeks+ of your time if not longer for 1 playthrough. What more can you ask for. And theres still more mods being released and planned for the game... which is nice.

 

What worries me is the next game, be it in fallout verse or TeS is will it be as good? im kindof wanting far more.. same quality but more in the way of battles and fights. Im kindof bored of taking a 5 level castle (up and below ground) that has 7 npcs in it.. or facing off against the terrible viper gang, of 4 members..  :( i need it harder tactically, not just turn to hard and they become superhuman and your paper thin health gets you insta killed if someone sneezes at you (im looking at you OP archers in skyrim).  But a man can dream..

 

 

Which brings a point anyone else come across the 1 hit archers in skyrim? went after the dragon tablet last week again, upon the boss room a archer kept 1 shoting me 4 times in a row, last 2 times i came back several levels higher and covered in deadric armor.. (health 350 - 400) i can live with being knocked across a room but not even being able to step 2 feet in a area without dieing is rediculous.

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