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While Youtubers Fight for Fair Use..

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Why don't we, the gamers, fight to get Valve to fix Steam? Valve is well known for it's policy of letting staff pick what projects they want to work on, but that creates a problem because nobody wants to do the boring stuff like curate the store. I can't be the only one sick of having the storefront flooded with shovelware and Unity asset flips instead of genuine games. Steam user reviews are also a joke, literally, it's rare that you ever see a user actually explain what the game is about and whether it's worth your time. Either have people at Valve populate actually useful reviews to the top of the list, or put joke reviews in a different category altogether, or get rid of it. I also have a bone to pick with their shit customer service, but lets be honest so do the rest of you.

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IMO there is way too many people licking Gabe's ass to actually give a shit about anything else. There are either people who think Gabe is god and does nothing wrong, or people who just don't give a damn about him. Since I don't give a shit about Steam, or Gabe or Valve because well, even though they are a good company and all, but as you said there is so many faults they have that are unacceptable and easily fixable, but dumbass fanboys will cockblock any proper constructive feedback with, "Gabe is God, you don't speak against Gabe or anything that's his!" type of argument. So yeah, very constructive conversations I always get with Steam fans.

 

So yeah, gotta burn those guys on pyres before Valve gets some actual constructive feedback. Also I think Steam's sales is one reason everybody praises Steam too much, rather than actually looking at all the fuckin faults it has.

 

 

 

Now I'll sit here and wait to get stabbed with pitchforks by angry Steam fanboys...

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I totally agree that steam reviews are for the most part useless but that's mostly because of jokers and hypocritical whiners complaining that their shitty laptops can't get 60fps on ultra. don't think there is much steam can do about it.

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Oddly enough I find steam reviews to be somewhat useful unlike professional reviewers which I trust less than a magic 8 ball.

Individually steam reviews arent much use. But Ill take the mostly positive, mixed, etc scores over pro scores any day. And while some games are joke scored like bad rats, its generally obvious when they are.

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IMO there is way too many people licking Gabe's ass to actually give a shit about anything else. There are either people who think Gabe is god and does nothing wrong, or people who just don't give a damn about him. Since I don't give a shit about Steam, or Gabe or Valve because well, even though they are a good company and all, but as you said there is so many faults they have that are unacceptable and easily fixable, but dumbass fanboys will cockblock any proper constructive feedback with, "Gabe is God, you don't speak against Gabe or anything that's his!" type of argument. So yeah, very constructive conversations I always get with Steam fans.

So yeah, gotta burn those guys on pyres before Valve gets some actual constructive feedback. Also I think Steam's sales is one reason everybody praises Steam too much, rather than actually looking at all the fuckin faults it has.

Now I'll sit here and wait to get stabbed with pitchforks by angry Steam fanboys...

If you want a constructive discussion, don't start by immediately generalizing the other side of the debate as fanboys who need to be burned to death.

So how do you propose this issue is "easily fixable?" Because the only solution I can see is going to cost thousands of man-hours of people going through and manually curating every review for every game. Would you be willing to pay extra for games if Valve did that? I guess that would mean the end of Steam because every other digital distributor wouldn't have that mark-up, but that's fine. That's worth the price of not having to look at a dumb user review.

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If you want a constructive discussion, don't start by immediately generalizing the other side of the debate as fanboys who need to be burned to death.

So how do you propose this issue is "easily fixable?" Because the only solution I can see is going to cost thousands of man-hours of people going through and manually curating every review for every game. Would you be willing to pay extra for games if Valve did that? I guess that would mean the end of Steam because every other digital distributor wouldn't have that mark-up, but that's fine. That's worth the price of not having to look at a dumb user review.

 

That's thousands of man hours that steam should have put into quality control and customer service in the first place, so it still comes to them. Nobody's suggesting that Steam curate user reviews anyway. That's bad ethics as much anything else.

 

No, the problems on Steam are down to Valve's actions and, even more so, omissions.

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If you want a constructive discussion, don't start by immediately generalizing the other side of the debate as fanboys who need to be burned to death.

So how do you propose this issue is "easily fixable?" Because the only solution I can see is going to cost thousands of man-hours of people going through and manually curating every review for every game. Would you be willing to pay extra for games if Valve did that? I guess that would mean the end of Steam because every other digital distributor wouldn't have that mark-up, but that's fine. That's worth the price of not having to look at a dumb user review.

First of all, when I say burned to death, I'm not being serious. I do have pretty dark humor and anyone who knows me a bit on these forums knows that.

Also I'm not generalizing. I'm talking about the specific types of people that don't admit when something has it's fault. I didn't say fans, but I said fanboys and there is a difference. 

 

Also tbh, I personally don't give a damn about Steam reviews. The whole idea is great, but when you give too much freedom to people on the internet and let them review stuff, then Valve I'm sure knew there would be lots of troll reviews and idiotism in there. Whether they thought that would be a serious issue or not is another matter. There is actual professional reviews elsewhere that people can check up. I was merely talking about other issues with Steam, not about reviews. There is lots of technical issues with Steam that aren't looked at. How many times I can't connect to Steam or there is issues starting games and many other technical difficulties. Last year they tried to put pricetags on Mods. If the entire community wasn't set on fire and literally 1000s of people rebelled, today people would need to buy mods there, while others would "pirate" them on other websites. 

 

I'm just generally saying there is faults with  Steam (technical) and others. Whether their features like review thingy can be made better, that I don't know. I'm just talking about Steam in general. It's a great service, but customer support is absoulute shit and many the client itself isn't working for random reasons and there is bugs. It's these kind of things I was talking about. 

 

Also as for reviews, if Valve puts out a feature like that which is actually pretty serious, then they should have a way to control it. Even if they have to open up online job hiring for it and hire random people and gift them with games or some crap in return, while the people keep control like delete troll reviews and so on. Yes, that's an absurd idea, but either Valve does somethinga about it or people shouldn't take those reviews too serious. Tbh the Steam review thing is more like going on Youtube, watching a review of a game and then just reading the comment section for opinions. That's exactly what reviews on Steam are lol. Rarely anyone there knows how to write a real review so either way, if it bothers someone too much, they should just watch professional reviews somewhere else. As for me personally, I don't mind it because I don't read them, but for those who do, well they either have to find someone who made a good review or just ignore it and send a complaint to Valve and hope they read it.

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Ok, I want to add another gripe to my statement before, and this is a pretty fucking big one. I was looking at my bank statement online earlier today, and for some reason I had a completed and a pending charge of $20 applied to my account since yesterday, and I have neither purchased anything, or received an email from Steam explaining why. What the hell?? I'm probably not going to see that money again until April, if I ever see it knowing Valve's support staff.

 

Edit: Actually, no, the issue was my bank being dumb and showing me purchases I made last week that had for some reason been posted today.

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this problem is in the AJSA as well

Not really, if you file a legit report on something an admin will usually act on it pretty quick.

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this problem is in the AJSA as well

Why would you think that?

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I also have a bone to pick with their shit customer service, but lets be honest so do the rest of you.

 

Nope. Not me.

 

But yeah, the store page is kind of a mess.

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Not really, if you file a legit report on something an admin will usually act on it pretty quick.

Weird because someone blamed u for ruining the AJSA minecraft server after he worked so hard to finish it. Calling u a troll and a dick. 

 

Why would you think that?

Because i dont wanna get banned for speaking the truth 

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Weird because someone blamed u for ruining the AJSA minecraft server after he worked so hard to finish it. Calling u a troll and a dick. 

 

Yes, and that idiot was banned.

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Yes, and that idiot was banned.

uh no he's still here and he also says that u criticize people but u dont have a good reason to why ur doing it 

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you mean he ban-dodged and he's your buddy so you believe whatever he says?

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you mean he ban-dodged and he's your buddy so you believe whatever he says?

no i dont even know who he is

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You guys should solve this shit privately...

its because this is relevant to everyone here

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its because this is relevant to everyone here

 

It's got nothing to do with the topic at hand. I literally cannot make the connection between problems with Steam and this... whatever it is your complaining about with the way the AJSA Minecraft server was managed? Literally nothing to do with this.

 

Apex is right, please take this somewhere else.

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It's got nothing to do with the topic at hand. I literally cannot make the connection between problems with Steam and this... whatever it is your complaining about with the way the AJSA Minecraft server was managed? Literally nothing to do with this.

 

Apex is right, please take this somewhere else.

How will u know i wont get banned for making thread about this

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How will u know i wont get banned for making thread about this

 

Use private messages.

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its because this is relevant to everyone here

No, this wasn't relevant to anything. For anyone wondering, this is about a disagreement I had with Glados over a year ago that neither of us even remembered until Slayer brought it up. The details of which are not important because we dealt with it then.

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No, this wasn't relevant to anything. For anyone wondering, this is about a disagreement I had with Glados over a year ago that neither of us even remembered until Slayer brought it up. The details of which are not important because we dealt with it then.

 

I'd put up a facepalm meme if I believed this was important enough to warrant a facepalm meme.

 

undeadslayer, if you've got a bone to pick, pick it off the dead horce you're kicking. Let's make this the last post about this on the thread.

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undeadslayer, if you've got a bone to pick, pick it off the dead horce you're kicking. Let's make this the last post about this on the thread.

Yes, I believe we were discussing all the things wrong with Steam and how Valve should go about fixing them?

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