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Battlefield 1 set in World War 1 - Official Trailer

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9 hours ago, Lazilot said:

They couldn't name it 1914 if they wanted to include tanks because they weren't deployed until later in the war (1916) plus they did go with that naming convention with the original game -- Battlefield:1942 -- but that didn't make sense because it featured battles and weapons from before and after 1942.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is it's EA, they don't give a fuck what it's called as long as it makes money.

I suspect that if they named it Battlefield 1914 people would confuse it for the Battlefield 1918 mod that is for the original 1942 game.

 

 

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I have something I need to say about Battlefield 1, when you say Battlefield 1 it makes it sound like it's the first Battlefield game, even though it's set in WW1, it makes it sound like it's the first Battlefield game, How do go from Battlefield 1942, to Battlefield 2, to Battlefield 3, to Battlefield 4, then to Battlefield 1? That doesn't make sense.

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4 hours ago, HecklerTheDragon said:

I have something I need to say about Battlefield 1, when you say Battlefield 1 it makes it sound like it's the first Battlefield game, even though it's set in WW1, it makes it sound like it's the first Battlefield game, How do go from Battlefield 1942, to Battlefield 2, to Battlefield 3, to Battlefield 4, then to Battlefield 1? That doesn't make sense.

 

Yeah, I remember something similar from another company afew years ago........

 

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Obviously it's not dumb this time because it's DICE

 

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10 minutes ago, Laserrifle125 said:

Why do I have a feeling that this thread will devolve to an endless argument about the title of the game?

I know right. I don't even get the big deal honestly lol

 

It's not like people buy the game and stare at the title. The only reason why it can be confusing is for the new players who don't know much about the games, but that's why there is Google today

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1 hour ago, Crazycrab said:

 

Yeah, I remember something similar from another company afew years ago........

 

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Obviously it's not dumb this time because it's DICE

 

That right there is common sense

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Let me just say that this looks like the game I have been waiting for my whole life cant wait to play as the germans and get into dogfights. but I think that battlefield 1914-1918 would have been a better title. My only hope is that they dont make americans the stars of the game. but I will say harlem hellfighters would be a cool dlc

 

 

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1 hour ago, Germanguy23 said:

Let me just say that this looks like the game I have been waiting for my whole life cant wait to play as the germans and get into dogfights. but I think that battlefield 1914-1918 would have been a better title. My only hope is that they dont make americans the stars of the game. but I will say harlem hellfighters would be a cool dlc

 

 

I reallly want the stars of the game to be European. There was a war for a good three odd years before the Americans showed up.

 

"Pushy Americans, always showing up late for every war!"

"I don't like the look of this one. His eyes are too close together. And he's a YANK!"

- Fowler, Chicken Run

Seriously, if we get a character like Fowler, I will personally buy five copies

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8 hours ago, SgtMerrick said:

I reallly want the stars of the game to be European. There was a war for a good three odd years before the Americans showed up.

 

"Pushy Americans, always showing up late for every war!"

"I don't like the look of this one. His eyes are too close together. And he's a YANK!"

- Fowler, Chicken Run

Seriously, if we get a character like Fowler, I will personally buy five copies

They'll probably do something for each side.  I just read a youtube comment which reminded me that there was the Christmas truce.  They should totally have that in the game.

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5 hours ago, Beatmaster A.C. said:

somehow it didn't catch me. Maybe because i got fed up with History or this "going backwards in time" all over again. BF 2142 was great. I wish they could go on that rail.

God, I would love another BF2142 type game with their current engine.  I was so disappointed when "near future" became the new futuristic setting in shooters.  I don't want M16s on dudes who jump real high, I want laser guns, and hover tanks, and mechs.  I want Planetside 2, but balanced so that 100v25 isn't a thing.

On the plus side, I got a major Titan (I think that's what they were called in 2142) vibe from that zeppelin at the end of the trailer.  If that game mode returns, I'll consider picking this up.  Otherwise I'm not interested in WW1 or WW2.

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1 hour ago, Zieglobaz said:

I don't want M16s on dudes who jump real high, I want laser guns, and hover tanks, and mechs.  I want Planetside 2, but balanced so that 100v25 isn't a thing.

A-Flippin-Men.

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OHHHHHHH YEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHH....Please have a good launch....

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West front, Italian Front and Mesopotamian front (or possibly Arab revolt under T.A. Lawrence [aka Lawrence of Arabia]) are all implied (trailers shows fragments from the three).

Guns Identified (not all of them 100% certainty): Mauser C96, Aerial Lewis Gun, Lewis Gun, T-Gewehr (German anti-tank rifle), Entrenching Tools, Winchester 1897 Shotgun, Aerial MG 08/15, M1911 pistol, Mauser 98 Rifle, MG 08/15, Lee-Enfield Mark 3, Berman MP 1918 SMG, 

Vehicles: British Mark IV, Fokker Triplane

+ Zeppelins, Armoured Trains and Calvalary.
 

If anyone is like AJ puzzled how Germans dealt with thanks (Germans built double digits of tanks, while forces of the Entente made quadruple digits of tanks): combined arms of specialist anti-material ammo (Mauser 8 mm SmK ammo in 7.92x57mm with Thungsten alloy Steel Core with heavy powder load), lots of hand grenades, Artillery and T-Gewehr. 

Here is a good video on the Anti-Tank rifle. It was 5'5" long and weight about 38lb, and it was using 13.m2 or .522 cal bullets, and it wasn't effective past 300m or 900 feet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mWeNNiG9YU&index=22&list=PLJvsSlrbdhn5v8AuvAZuOYJ5BgEEoDdqm

And yes armoured infantry protection was experimented with. Only realy successful experiment were the helmets, especially German - Stahlhelm, witch was used all the way into WW2, not the early Pikelhaube, witch was made of leather (the helmet the Medic in TF2 can get as a hat). German "Lobster Armour" was experiment - it could stop a pistol round and 10 feet/ 3m, but it weighed so much that they were used almost exclusively by sentries.

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On 2016-05-10 at 6:58 PM, Mattilald said:

West front, Italian Front and Mesopotamian front (or possibly Arab revolt under T.A. Lawrence [aka Lawrence of Arabia]) are all implied (trailers shows fragments from the three).

Guns Identified (not all of them 100% certainty): Mauser C96, Aerial Lewis Gun, Lewis Gun, T-Gewehr (German anti-tank rifle), Entrenching Tools, Winchester 1897 Shotgun, Aerial MG 08/15, M1911 pistol, Mauser 98 Rifle, MG 08/15, Lee-Enfield Mark 3, Berman MP 1918 SMG, 

Vehicles: British Mark IV, Fokker Triplane

+ Zeppelins, Armoured Trains and Calvalary.
 

If anyone is like AJ puzzled how Germans dealt with thanks (Germans built double digits of tanks, while forces of the Entente made quadruple digits of tanks): combined arms of specialist anti-material ammo (Mauser 8 mm SmK ammo in 7.92x57mm with Thungsten alloy Steel Core with heavy powder load), lots of hand grenades, Artillery and T-Gewehr. 

Here is a good video on the Anti-Tank rifle. It was 5'5" long and weight about 38lb, and it was using 13.m2 or .522 cal bullets, and it wasn't effective past 300m or 900 feet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mWeNNiG9YU&index=22&list=PLJvsSlrbdhn5v8AuvAZuOYJ5BgEEoDdqm

And yes armoured infantry protection was experimented with. Only realy successful experiment were the helmets, especially German - Stahlhelm, witch was used all the way into WW2, not the early Pikelhaube, witch was made of leather (the helmet the Medic in TF2 can get as a hat). German "Lobster Armour" was experiment - it could stop a pistol round and 10 feet/ 3m, but it weighed so much that they were used almost exclusively by sentries.

Surprised no one linked this video.

 

Also server browser confirmed and other stuff.

 

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I try to stay away from Battlefield analysis videos. So many of Battlefield Youtubers take everything in cinematic trailers seriously.

 

I remember the insane hype Jackfrags and Levelcap made by saying naval warfare and several things are back because it showed a ship propeller in the BF4 trailer and they were like "IS NAVAL WARFARE BACK IN THE BATTLEFIELD SERIES, OMG!!"

Also others trailers later had many things the game just didn't. The only thing I do 100% trust is when Jackfrags in his video now, read tweets that were already confirmed anyway, but any kind of solo analysis...no.

 

Anyway, the feature of pilots and tankers having their own kit makes me super excited and the fact you can put a knife on your weapon and then charge at enemies. That's actually awesome!

 

Also one theory I have myself is tha the carvings on the weapons you get if you preorder is basically like the Dogtags in BF3 and BF4. Instead of us customizing our weapons in camos and stuff which wasn't a thing in WW1, we will be able to maybe carve things into them. There will be like unlocks on what we carve.

 

Honestly I wasn't super excited about the setting as I'm not a huge fan of  WW1 and WW2, but if DICE can pull this thing off right, I might even get the game a few months after the release, just to make sure they don't have any launch issues. I'm glad their first priority is launch now so that's good.

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1 hour ago, Apex Spartan said:

I try to stay away from Battlefield analysis videos. So many of Battlefield Youtubers take everything in cinematic trailers seriously.

 

I remember the insane hype Jackfrags and Levelcap made by saying naval warfare and several things are back because it showed a ship propeller in the BF4 trailer and they were like "IS NAVAL WARFARE BACK IN THE BATTLEFIELD SERIES, OMG!!"

Also others trailers later had many things the game just didn't. The only thing I do 100% trust is when Jackfrags in his video now, read tweets that were already confirmed anyway, but any kind of solo analysis...no.

 

Anyway, the feature of pilots and tankers having their own kit makes me super excited and the fact you can put a knife on your weapon and then charge at enemies. That's actually awesome!

 

Also one theory I have myself is tha the carvings on the weapons you get if you preorder is basically like the Dogtags in BF3 and BF4. Instead of us customizing our weapons in camos and stuff which wasn't a thing in WW1, we will be able to maybe carve things into them. There will be like unlocks on what we carve.

 

Honestly I wasn't super excited about the setting as I'm not a huge fan of  WW1 and WW2, but if DICE can pull this thing off right, I might even get the game a few months after the release, just to make sure they don't have any launch issues. I'm glad their first priority is launch now so that's good.

Yeah but it is done with the game engine and they had to model all that.  Kind of like the Battlefront game engine footage reveal trailer.  So they will probably appear in the game at some point or it will be a huge waste.  Something like a battleship may not be in the multiplayer but it could be in the campaign or on a map.  Environments/maps (either multiplayer or campaign), weapons and equipment/cosmetics shown in the trailer will most likely be in the game.  Rockets mounted on biplanes could appear in multiplayer too.

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The guns identified are also models from the video.

I'm hyped for the idea of WW1 Battlefield game, I never thought I'd see the day. There isn't a lot of shooters set in WW1 out there, and the centennial is the perfect time to make a game set in it.  I know a lot of you are disappointed they aren't revisiting 2142, we all hope they will revisit it soon.

There were automatic and semi-automatic weapons available. SMGs, LMGs and HMGs were all automatic and most could be shot on the move. The armoured guy with the HMG is using Maxim MG 08-15, people have demonstrated that it could be shot while walking. AJ mistook is for a Gatling gun somehow - they have nothing in common. Gatling gun has rotating barrels, while MG 08 has a single barrel, the huge sleeve around it, is just a water tank for water cooling.  The poster boy has an atumatic pistol hanging on his belt (the pistol in hand is a Mauser C96 tho)

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  Because M'urricah, this World War One will probably be Americanized, even though American had VERY LITTLE involvement. 

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4 hours ago, N00banaga said:

  Because M'urricah, this World War One will probably be Americanized, even though American had VERY LITTLE involvement. 

Maybe not. Nothing in the trailer indicates major american presence. The only guys that could be Americans on the video, are the ones being beaten the crap out of.

 

Watching analyses of the vide by people that know about WW1 a lot more than me (and their youtube video production is focused on other things (for example: WW1 small arms, WW1 week-by-week recounting of the war), I have realised that BF1 announcement trailer has had a lot of thought put into it. It's not 100% historically accurate (there were some unfinished weapon models in there for example, both aerial variants of machine guns had wrong barrel sleeve, and the Italian gun models seemed unidentifiable - aerial guns tended to have air cooling not water cooling like ground variants), but the trailer indicates both the game mechanics (like classes - the guy with crutches was probably a medic, despite medics not taking crutches into combat) and details mostly forgotten by the general public. And some deviations because this is a AAA shooter, and needs to make a lot of money, to cover the massive development costs.

Somebody said on this forum that this looks like a Michael Bay version of WW1, and I don't really agree. The only way to capture enemy postition, before widespread availability of tanks, was explosions, and lots of them. In early battles on western front (1914), each battle started with tens of thousands of artillery shells being fired on the enemy positions. Intensity of artillery barrages only intensified as war raged on. In the first 6 days of battle of Verdun there was 2 million shells fired by the Germans (whole battle lasted for almost entire year - from February to December 1916). Most of the westerners has image of WW1 of people sitting in trenches, hiding from shelling and getting slaughtered in suicidal charges, and that's not even entirety of experience of Western front. There were daily sniper duels, artillery barrages, air attacks, gas attacks... Western front brought the invention of Assault Troops - specialist squads dedicated to raiding enemy tranches. You had guys equipped first automatic pistols, carabine pistols, satchels of grenades, melee weapons (entrenching tools, bayonets, clubs) and sometimes even armour. Galipoli had speciality of having very occasional Naval Support. Mesopotamian campaign and eastern front were mostly mobile warfare (with forces of entente sometimes using Armoured Cars), colonial conflicts had either pitched battles or guerilla warfare. There was a lot of naval action - mostly in the pacific in first 2 years. Italian front had nearly constant battle along the entire Isonzo front (for almost entirety of the 2 and a half year the front existed, before the only offensive by the Central powers pushed the front by over 160km/100miles), it included a lot of high mountain warfare, with a lot of sappers, infiltration and trench raiding.

I'm not saying there was constant action all the time and everywhere, but there was certainly enough for a AAA shooter.

I'm also not saying Battlefild is going to be good. I'm not a diviner, I can't see in the future. I think this deserves holding opinion until we can at least see the multilayer beta.

TL;DR: There was enough action in WW1, for a game. There were a lot of things, that could make an FPS interesting - including melee. And I'm not saing Battlefield 1 is definitively going to be interesting.

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Honestly I, personally, am excited to see where DICE goes with this setting. It is a nice change of pace from the current modern/futuristic fps sitting that most triple A games seem to go. It will of course have the Battlefield staple to it. And while it won't be 100% accurate to the First World War. I can understand this, as they do need to give it a little hollywood flare to make it more appealing as a playable setting. 

But that doesn't mean there isn't anything there to use. Overall it was indeed a war of attrition, no doubt. But as said earlier, there were daily artillery barrages. Sniper duels and "over the top" charges in an attempt to take the enemy trench. Obviously all these things will not be present in the game. Some, but not all. But all we can hope for is at least an authentic in the way of style, uniform and weapon to give an organic feel to the game. With a bit of DICE flare. Heck, even verdun isn't 100% accurate either, and it's praised for it's authenticity. 

All we can hope for is that it's a good game. With a good set up and proper execution. I hope it's launch is nothing like BF4's. And hope that they also give it's campaign some love too. My biggest hope however. Is that if we want to enjoy a more real version of the War. That the AJA as a whole work together to get a server to implement that. Have proper trench runs and battle charges. Who knows. Sometimes how it's played is simply up to us as a community.

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Maybe not. Nothing in the trailer indicates major american presence.

They also have said they wanted more diversity and to show areas and combatants not normally thought of when talking about the war, even the trailer seems to be showing that.

 

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