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1 hour ago, Beatmaster A.C. said:

Emulators are NOT illegal and i didn't link any pirated ISO sources or so. I just said my opinion and that is also not illegal.

Emulators for newer consoles typically are illegal because downloading the bios files is illegal, which tends to be stated by members of teams working on emulators, roms, or on translations and game hacks, it's also why bios files aren't kept up on the official websites for emulators. Downloading games is definitely illegal. I don't know what Germany's laws are but these things typically aren't allowed, definitely not in gaming communities. Even if it was legal in most places, as the AJSA wants to work with developers and the community also represents Joe who interviews and needs to work with developers and publishers we don't allow our members to publicly support random needless acts of piracy, as it specifically says in the CoC

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It is against the rules to promote video game (or any other media) piracy as it reflects negatively upon the community and Angry Joe's reputation and relationship with game developers.

 

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1 hour ago, Beatmaster A.C. said:

Emulators are NOT illegal and i didn't link any pirated ISO sources or so. I just said my opinion and that is also not illegal.

 

I know a bit about this so I just want to clarify.  It's true that emulators in of themselves are not illegal but downloading pirated ROM's/BIOS' and software is. The legal way to use is them is to run from an actual copy of the game or copy the ROM/ISO file from the source yourself for your own personal use.

 

Would I ever expect a police officer to knock on your door for downloading the ROM's or ISO files from the internet? Of course not, but it IS technically piracy.

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10 hours ago, Shagger said:

 

Time and time again? When's the last time this happend? Like a year and a half ago?

Yeah. It have only been a year and a half ago.

 

Oh, and playstation users have been reporting that their playstation accounts been hacked. Some of these reports aren't even a month old. So that's something.

 

http://www.gamezone.com/news/some-psn-users-are-reporting-that-their-accounts-have-been-hacked-3442312

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/my-playstation-account-was-hacked-and-i-had-to-pay/

There's even a guide on what to do when your shit got hacked.

http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/695148/PlayStation-hacked-What-to-do-when-your-PSN-account-gets-hacked

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1 hour ago, TamaskanLEM said:

Yeah. It have only been a year and a half ago.

 

Oh, and playstation users have been reporting that their playstation accounts been hacked. Some of these reports aren't even a month old. So that's something.

 

http://www.gamezone.com/news/some-psn-users-are-reporting-that-their-accounts-have-been-hacked-3442312

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/my-playstation-account-was-hacked-and-i-had-to-pay/

There's even a guide on what to do when your shit got hacked.

http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/695148/PlayStation-hacked-What-to-do-when-your-PSN-account-gets-hacked

 

Hackers get into PSN, XBox Live, Google, Twitch, Netflix, Amazon.......  Pretty much all online services all the time, and it's usually done through illicit application downloads and spyware on PC.  Even Steam.... yeah, they were hacked at Christmas just like XBox Live and PSN the year before but surprisingly the PC community kept pretty quiet about that didn't they!  So I find it kind of hypocritical that PC users constantly point the fingers at consoles for this.

 

Hell my Spotify account was hacked about a month ago, did I loose my shit and piss and moan on forum and/or social media...  No!  I Emailed their customer service and after an exchange of some details via about 2 or 3 further Emails I got full access back after a couple of days. I then changed the password to both my Spotify account and the associated Email address.

 

There is not point in looking for individual cases of this and that getting hacked to try and prove a point because, and I'll say it again.....  It happens every single day everywhere!

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2 hours ago, Crazycrab said:

 

Hackers get into PSN, XBox Live, Google, Twitch, Netflix, Amazon.......  Pretty much all online services all the time, and it's usually done through illicit application downloads and spyware on PC.  Even Steam.... yeah, they were hacked at Christmas just like XBox Live and PSN the year before but surprisingly the PC community kept pretty quiet about that didn't they!  So I find it kind of hypocritical that PC users constantly point the fingers at consoles for this.

 

Hell my Spotify account was hacked about a month ago, did I loose my shit and piss and moan on forum and/or social media...  No!  I Emailed their customer service and after an exchange of some details via about 2 or 3 further Emails I got full access back after a couple of days. I then changed the password to both my Spotify account and the associated Email address.

 

There is not point in looking for individual cases of this and that getting hacked to try and prove a point because, and I'll say it again.....  It happens every single day everywhere!

As interesting as that is, it doesn't disprove the idea that hackers may find a sort of mean to pirate these streamed games. While it's true that PC users have to watchout for these applications, how much of that is true for these video game consoles when you have sony, microsoft, and nintendo policing their app stores? How do this shit keep going on? Hell if I know. It did get some buzz so I don't know where the whole pc community been ignoring consoles deal come from. Word do go out, even though it have a tendency to be played off as a joke. Still, I'd say there's nothing wrong with deciding to not keep this deal under the rug. If there's someone doing you wrong, then by all means, shout to the high heavens to see if it have some chance of preventing that shit from happening again. That's not a bad thing. Again, it helped create a what to do guide in case it happens to you. Good for us, right?

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28 minutes ago, TamaskanLEM said:

As interesting as that is, it doesn't disprove the idea that hackers may find a sort of mean to pirate these streamed games. While it's true that PC users have to watchout for these applications, how much of that is true for these video game consoles when you have sony, microsoft, and nintendo policing their app stores? How do this shit keep going on? Hell if I know. It did get some buzz so I don't know where the whole pc community been ignoring consoles deal come from. Word do go out, even though it have a tendency to be played off as a joke. Still, I'd say there's nothing wrong with deciding to not keep this deal under the rug. If there's someone doing you wrong, then by all means, shout to the high heavens to see if it have some chance of preventing that shit from happening again. That's not a bad thing. Again, it helped create a what to do guide in case it happens to you. Good for us, right?

 

I'm not saying it does, in fact I never even mentioned anything in any slight relation about that.........  even if they did it would be almost certainly be easier to use the disc based copies anyway assuming they haven't already. 

 

It's because they don't hack their way their way in through the app stores on the consoles themselves, the UI/OS on the consoles doesn't allow that kind of functionality.  They do it either by installing homebrew OS on the systems or by hacking in through the associated web based services using a PC like Playstation.com.

 

To be honest and without trying to be a dick whatsoever......  after the last highlighted part I'm struggling to know what you mean.  I would recommend proof reading because I genuinely don't know what your trying to get across here.

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39 minutes ago, TamaskanLEM said:

As interesting as that is, it doesn't disprove the idea that hackers may find a sort of means to pirate these streamed games. While it's true that PC users have to beware these applications, but how does this apply to games consoles when you have Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo moderating their storefronts and software usage? How does this shit happen with this level of control and close monitoring? Hell if I know. The hacking scandal of steam did get some attention when it happened, so I don't know what you mean about the PC community "Hiding" or "Downplaying" it. Still, I'd say there's nothing wrong with deciding to expose these problems. If there's someone doing you wrong, then by all means, shout to the high heavens to see if it have some chance of preventing that shit from happening again. That's not a bad thing. Again, it helped create a what to do guide in case it happens to you. Good for us, right?

 

Honestly mate, dead serious and I'm only trying to help, I literally couldn't follow that post, so the "quote" above is my attempt to untangle it. Now I have, I'm gonna think it through and respond. However, if I have got the point or perspective wrong I appoligize in advance.

 

Trying to pirate a streamed game fundamentally is, as far as I can tell, impossible as the hard ata is being hosted and rendered on a completely separate device. There was a legitimate attempt by steam users to cover the steam hack when it happened with the PCMR reddit, for example, telling it's members to handle any problems thy had quietly though contacting steam and to not speak of them on social media. You're right, there's nothing wrong with people getting the word out about it when these problems happen, but people doing malicious hacks to "expose" these problems or "prove they need better safeguards" is a bullshit excuse. Sure, it's worked out for the better, but the intentions were not noble at all.

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1 hour ago, Crazycrab said:

I'm not saying it does, in fact I never even mentioned anything in any slight relation about that.........

I know. It's almost as if it's been derailed or something. The topic in mind was not how often sony gets hacked, but whether it's possible to pirate streamed content. I said sure since if the network to both microsoft and sony can be hacked then why not? Shaggy just stated that it was such a long time ago, being a year and a half and all. I stated then that well hacks do continue at least through accounts because yolo. Finally, you stated that it doesn't count or whatever.

 

1 hour ago, Crazycrab said:

It's because they don't hack their way their way in through the app stores on the consoles themselves, the UI/OS on the consoles doesn't allow that kind of functionality.  They do it either by installing homebrew OS on the systems or by hacking in through the associated web based services using a PC like Playstation.com.

Yes, but only one of those things you've brought can relate to psn accounts being hacked. It's feasible through the playstation site sure, but homebrewing the console open options to hack your own console, not the network.

 

1 hour ago, Crazycrab said:

To be honest and without trying to be a dick whatsoever......  after the last highlighted part I'm struggling to know what you mean.  I would recommend proof reading because I genuinely don't know what your trying to get across here.

Nah. It's fine.

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1 hour ago, Shagger said:

 

Honestly mate, dead serious and I'm only trying to help, I literally couldn't follow that post, so the "quote" above is my attempt to untangle it then now I'm gonna think it through and respond. However, if I have got the point or perspective wrong I appoligize in advance.

 

Trying to pirate a streamed game fundamentally is, as far as I can tell, impossible as the hard ata is being hosted and rendered on a completely separate device. There was a legitimate attempt by steam users to cover the steam hack when it happened with the PCMR reddit, for example, telling it's members to handle any problems thy had quietly though contacting steam and to not speak of them on social media. You're right, there's nothing wrong with people getting the word out about it when these problems happen, but people doing malicious hacks to "expose" these problems or "prove they need better safeguards" is a bullshit excuse. Sure, it's worked out for the better, but the intentions were not noble at all.

Alright. That's all I wanted to know.

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5 minutes ago, TamaskanLEM said:

Yes, but only one of those things you've brought can relate to psn accounts being hacked. It's feasible through the playstation site sure, but homebrewing the console open options to hack your own console, not the network.

 

Well it is technically possible to hack a network using as homebrew console if the homebrew has been designed to do it, it's just not common.

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Wasn't this topic supposed to be about PSN Now coming to PC and not a moral debate about game console piracy?

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People are debating on if its technologically possible... Not morally. Gracious.

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