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Outlast 2 Banned in Australia

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Why is it Australia is so fastidious out this one thing?

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1 hour ago, Crazycrab said:

Why is it Australia is so fastidious out this one thing?

At least it's not Germany.

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No.....NO!

 

 

This can't be right? I mean, this is a joke right? It has to be! Australia already have R18 rating that allows gory games to exist! WE HAVE MORTAL KOMBAT X FOR FUCK SAKES! And now the country is back to banning a game?? And one of my most anticipated game of this year too???? NO! I WILL NOT BELIEVE IT! IT CANNOT BE TRUE!

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7 hours ago, Would you Kindly said:

Hmm Australia bans a lot of things don't they.

Lots of M Rated and Adult Only games I believe. They had to edit Stick of Truth to be even allowed to be sold there too, if I recall.

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4 hours ago, Mr_E_Meatshield said:

Lots of M Rated and Adult Only games I believe. They had to edit Stick of Truth to be even allowed to be sold there too, if I recall.

Yep the Alien butt probing part of the game was censored:

 

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4 hours ago, argetlam350 said:

Yep the Alien butt probing part of the game was censored:

 

And yet the written descriptions are, in my opinion, far more graphic then the actual scene itself. 

Bless you Matt and Trey. Bless you.

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13 hours ago, argetlam350 said:

Yep the Alien butt probing part of the game was censored:

 

Yes, but that game isn't banned, and it's a good thing that even the edited version is funny because itself is a perfect jab at censorship. Which means the sequel will get edited too. Damn it. Oh well, at least I can youtube it.

 

Alright, so I checked on why the game got banned, and I found this, with complete spoilers on the scene that made this game banned.

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/03/heres-why-outlast-2-was-refused-classification-in-australia/

Wow. There's a fucked up orgy in the game. And from the description, this is quite a lot like a hentai game. Man, looks like this game just up the "let's make this game as adult as it can possibly be" scale. NOW I WANT THIS GAME EVEN MORE!

 

So wait a minute, Witcher 3 also has a lot of sex and nudity, but that game is ok? That.... makes no sense doesn't it?

 

Good thing Greenmangaming can sell this game with no country restriction. 

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SUCK IT AUSTRALIA RATING BOARD!

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Depictions of rape is pretty much the only thing games get refused classification here. And after reading what happens in the blocked scene, I'm not surprised. That sounds fucking twisted.

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It now has an 18+ rating and is no longer banned.

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So wait a minute, Witcher 3 also has a lot of sex and nudity, but that game is ok? That.... makes no sense doesn't it?

Are you actually unaware that sex/nudity and rape are different things?

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Well good news the game is coming out in Australia after being edited:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/03/23/outlast-2-will-come-out-in-australia-after-all

 

Bad news (depending on how you view it), the edit might be on all worldwide releases, going off of part of the statement that - "There will be only one version of Outlast 2 available worldwide.” - suggests that this edit might be all versions worldwide will have been edited.

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Bad news (depending on how you view it), the edit might be on all worldwide releases, going off of part of the statement that - "There will be only one version of Outlast 2 available worldwide.” - suggests that this edit might be all versions worldwide will have been edited.

The original story that both IGN and Kotaku are linking to says the scene is included and unchanged, which would imply there was nothing changed about the game.

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47 minutes ago, Legolas_Katarn said:

The original story that both IGN and Kotaku are linking to says the scenes is included and unchanged, which would imply there was nothing changed about the game.

Yes the original story, since then it was updated with to quote IGN's story:

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Update: IGN has been advised by the Australian Classification Board that, at the request of Outlast II’s Australian distributor, it will not be providing the Board’s report on its decision until March 25. The Board also explained that “it is satisfied that that the original version of the game that was refused classification has been modified to allow the game to be classified R 18+.”

Earlier today in a statement provided to Press Start Outlast II developer Red Barrels said, “Outlast 2 has been rated R18+ by the Classification Branch in Australia and will be released 26th April 2017. There will be only one version of Outlast 2 available worldwide.”

If both of these statements are factual Outlast II it would appear Outlast II may have been edited for its worldwide release. The game is yet to appear in either the ESRB or PEGI ratings databases.

IGN has contacted the game's distributor for clarification.

Thus suggesting that there has indeed been a change to the game for at least Australian to give it an R 18+ classification. The statement from Red Barrels suggests that what changes were made for Australian might of been made for the worldwide launch though there is no full confirmation thus IGN has reached out to them.

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1 minute ago, argetlam350 said:

Yes the original story, since then it was updated with to quote IGN's story:

Thus suggesting that there has indeed been a change to the game for at least Australian to give it an R 18+ classification. The statement from Red Barrels suggests that what changes were made for Australian might of been made for the worldwide launch though there is no full confirmation thus IGN has reached out to them.

You're right, sorry about that. Left a lot of articles open while I went to do something else and was looking at a version before the update was added.

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55 minutes ago, argetlam350 said:

Thus suggesting that there has indeed been a change to the game for at least Australian to give it an R 18+ classification. The statement from Red Barrels suggests that what changes were made for Australian might of been made for the worldwide launch though there is no full confirmation thus IGN has reached out to them.

YES!!!! YEEESS!!! YEEEEEEESSSSSS!!!

 

WOHOO!!! We in Australia are getting this game after all! While it was a shame that it had to be censored for all worldwide launch, at least from what the reports said for now, the important thing is the world will all be able to play this game. Can't wait for next month! 

1 hour ago, Legolas_Katarn said:

Are you actually unaware that sex/nudity and rape are different things?

Of course I am aware. But you're not aware that Australia is notorious for just taking the fun out of stuff for the slightest of reasons for games which just contradicts each other. I mean hell, before the R18 was actually introduced, we have to deal with Left 4 Dead 2 and Soldier of Fortune 3 with violence completely cut out which makes the games fucking worthless. That's why we petition the shit out of the introduction of the R18, so there's no more censorship and we all can play games equally like the rest of the world.

 

We thought the introduction R18 rating for games is when this kind of stuff stops, but nope! Still have to deal with censorship. Yes I understand that South Park Stick of Truth has that probing scene which does look like rape, but it also that bedroom sex scene, with no rape, but that one is not allowed. And meanwhile R18 films and porn films are allowed, filled with all kinds of rape and adult stuff. Doesn't make sense does it? This Outlast 2 controversy is just bad luck to gamers in Australia.

 

 

Anywho, it's all over now. Outlast 2 is finally not banned in Australia. YES!!!!!

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15 minutes ago, Legolas_Katarn said:

You're right, sorry about that. Left a lot of articles open while I went to do something else and was looking at a version before the update was added.

No worries. Also glad Australia gets it just find it kind of weird if it does turn out that Red Barrels decided to censor all region versions of it. Hopefully Red Barrel explains a bit more on that last comment soon.

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As an Australian, can I take this opportunity to mention something that bothers me whenever a game is banned in my country and it becomes a big thing? As I said before, depictions of rape are about the only thing we actually ban (Or more accurately refuse rating classification meaning it isn't legal to commercially sell in the country) so whenever I see people making articles and such and so fourth I can't help but also notice the group of people with the usual "Why is it banned it's not that bad" etc etc counter argument. Insert standard SJW essay here. But more than that is when the publisher or developer capitalises on it and starts marketing the game as the edgy "The game Australia didn't want" like Saints Row did a while ago. Which just makes the idiots who don't understand the implications of the issue act more like twats. Just annoys me when my country gets used for something as cheap as that.

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On 25/03/2017 at 4:23 AM, The Anti-Santa said:

As an Australian, can I take this opportunity to mention something that bothers me whenever a game is banned in my country and it becomes a big thing? As I said before, depictions of rape are about the only thing we actually ban (Or more accurately refuse rating classification meaning it isn't legal to commercially sell in the country) so whenever I see people making articles and such and so fourth I can't help but also notice the group of people with the usual "Why is it banned it's not that bad" etc etc counter argument. Insert standard SJW essay here. But more than that is when the publisher or developer capitalises on it and starts marketing the game as the edgy "The game Australia didn't want" like Saints Row did a while ago. Which just makes the idiots who don't understand the implications of the issue act more like twats. Just annoys me when my country gets used for something as cheap as that.

 

I see your point but I think more productive to actually explore and discuss issues like this rather than hide it under the carpet, which is effectively what censorship does.  Media including games is an effective way to do that without harming anyone.  By drawing attention to the issue it makes people aware and encourages victims to seek justice. 

 

Let me give you an example from my county, in the UK over the past 4 or 5 years there has been allot of Historical Child Abuse cases many of which involve perpetrators from various Religious Institutions, Government organisations and Corporations may of which are years even decades old.  Some of these a perps are now dead or so old that they will die in prison years before their time is up, in other words the victims never truly got justice.  If it happens now they are much more likely to come forward sooner and have a much better chance of getting justice and that is thanks a large part to education and media.

 

Obviously there are certain games that certain people shouldn't be playing because of their age or sensitivity to certain issues, but that's what ESRB/PEGI/BBFC ratings are for.  Consoles and PC clients also have parental controls available so that parents can restrict what type of content that their children can access and it's not exactly hard to briefly look up a game or it's rating and draw some reasonable conclusions, so if your a parent and your kids play something unsuitable you have nobody to blame but yourself.  The only thing it doesn't tell you is whether the game sucks.

 

There are some games which are rightly banned but in most cases it's because of politics, over-sensitivity or legal nonsense.  Looking at this random top 10 and I'd have to say that Rapelay (number 6) is the only one that I think was banned for a legitimately harmful content.

 

 

This is something that in my opinion governments need to ease up on and give consumers the choice instead.  I'm sorry if I went a little of the post I originally responded to but I guess I had more to say, thanks for reading.

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So.......................... recent news has been announced regarding this censorship thing.

 

http://au.ign.com/articles/2017/03/27/outlast-2-developer-clears-up-australian-ratings-confusion

 

Turns out that the dev of Outlast 2 gave an "alpha footage" to the Australian ratings board, and that the full game actually doesn't have that controversial fucked up footage. At all.

 

“The original submission of Outlast 2 sent to the Australian Classification Branch contained the final game code and a video file for reference taken from an Alpha version of the game,” the studio explained in a statement provided to IGN. “This video file should not have been sent along with the game code, as its content was not representative of the final game.”

“In the second submission, the same game code was submitted with a video file reflecting the final game content. The game was then approved for release with an R18+ rating.”

 

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So in conclusion, this whole controversy is just misleading crap, and it is all a complete waste of time that shouldn't exist in the first place if people just pay close attention and submit the right thing. Wow, thanks game dev! Good thing it's all fixed in the end and everyone can finally enjoy this game with no fuss.

 

Lesson here: mistakes happen.

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You could also go into how part of the issue here was that a lot of media outlets will bull rush to get an article up first before they have all the facts. I've seen some articles that had "ANNOUNCEMENT!" in the title only for the article to read "More to come soon".

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