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Tekken 7, 900p on PS4 and XB1. Embarrising for the 8th gen consoles... or is it?

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Hi all


I admit, this is a topic allot of you are not gonna find at all interesting, but this is something that through curiosity brought me to a worrying theory. It was first brought to my attention by this vid from ReviewTechUSA;



Article cited in video


I'm not a graphics whore. I only care about this sort of shit when fiddling with the graphics settings on a PC game to get the performance I want, then I save said settings and never think about them again. The other thing I would want to point out is that whilst I do have a PC that could run this game probably at 1440p at 60fps, I would only by it on console because that's where local multiplayer works best.


Even so, I was puzzled that the PS4 (specifically, but It's more than likely the XB1 will be the same) would only run a fighting game, traditionally not that graphically demanding, at sub-Full HD, all be it a 60fps (although that basically a necessity in a fighting game).


Intrigued, I dug into this a little deeper, and when I found the PC spec's things started to become clear...




Okay, I know this is Unreal Engine 4, but still why is this level of tech necessary to run a fighting game? Especially the recommended spec'. The GTX 1060 is not really a 4K card, so this tells me the "recommended" spec' is the minimum to run the game at 1080p 60fps on higher settings for PC. Have less than that? Then the game will probably at console spec with that hardware. The consoles can't be blamed this time, it's the game itself that's been over developed beyond sensible ambition.

This is why I'm concerned. Allot of people have complained that making multi-plats for PC and console was holding PC games back, but I always insisted that even if that's true that it was a good thing because it stopped the cost of gaming on all sides from spiralling out of control. More specially, higher development costs - higher consumer costs on games - higher cost on gaming hardware - less people being able to afford games overall - games have to be made more profitable because of lower install bases - yet higher consumer costs on games and/or more greedy business practices - even lower install bases -games having to be even more profitable... I think you get the drill. The lower install base thing is already an issue. I've had a look at a recent Steam Hardware Survey. The data needs to be studied closely and presented in a more organised way, but a quick look indicates to me that at best only about 30% of active steam users will actually be able to run this game.


There is more evidence that this isn't the consoles holding these developers back as well as proof that this developer can get good performance out of lower spec hardware. Check out Tales of Berseria that came out just this year;




True, the JRPG, especially ones made in this anime style, aren't famous for being hard on hardware, and true this game does have some low quality textures here and there and stuff, but that doesn't explain why this open world PC exclusive is so much less demanding than a multi-plat fighting game. Tales of Berseria is beautiful never the less, and it's a fine game as well, nothing against it, I'm just using it to make a point.


Why would Bandai Namco do this? I suppose it could be Bandai Namco thinking that the combined sales from all platforms will be enough, but that's quite a gamble to spend this kind of money developing a game for a fairly niche franchise like this to then immediately lower the install base on PC.


This looks to me like something I've feared for a long time in game development has finally happened, ambition out-stretching common sense. I don't see Tekken 7 selling all that well anyway, so this will probably be the end for this franchise, and it will only be the first if game developers start biting off more than they can chew. This issue is very open to interpretation, I'm really keen to hear what you think.


Thanks for reading.

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17 hours ago, Shagger said:

because that's where local multiplayer works best.

Unless they pull another "Halo:5" and remove it because of bullshit excuses.

17 hours ago, Shagger said:

Intrigued, I dug into this a little deeper, and when I found the PC spec's things started to become clear...

Can't help but notice the "Expand your fighter's journey by purchasing the Season Pass separately to gain access to STUNNING new content" :D the wording there is so atrocious, it kind of even suggests it's necessary to pay more for access to said "STUNNING" content, who the hell writes that stuff anyway...?

17 hours ago, Shagger said:

This is why I'm concerned. Allot of people have complained that making multi-plats for PC and console was holding PC games back, but I always insisted that even if that's true that it was a good thing because it stopped he cost of gaming all sides from spiralling out of control.

Honestly, I was and still am pretty pissed at New Vegas for example, I've heard and read about the in-game city itself and how a big portion of it had to be scrapped and the remainder was littered with loadscreens.

I could understand why they would do it, so more people can buy and play the game on release, but it also impacts the quality of the game in my opinion, I don't think this case was over-ambition, if your game is called New Vegas then New Vegas better be a well developed place, no?

With that said I'm honestly torn on this issue, because I've experienced first hand the inability to run anything new since pretty much forever, and I'm used to playing games on less than 30FPS on minimum settings, it could be especially frustrating when for example your PC just isn't able to run a certain part of the game which means you'll buy it, and later down the line find out you can't finish it, for me it happened with Kingdoms of Amalur:Reckoning, it's an amazing game and I'm glad I bought it but my PC would ALWAYS crash at "Breaking the Siege" main Quest, now it's my fault I didn't look into the Specs and such, but I didn't understand those at that time.

So I guess in a way I want games to be more accessible for people like me who just can't afford an expensive rig but that's a very small minority usually from poor countries and most of such people usually pirate their games anyway, albeit I have no statistics to back that claim up, it's pretty much anecdotal, based on what I've seen here.

I think it might be hard to tell how much of the people with outdated Specs are interested in modern games, but if the number is significant I'd be all for less Spec-demanding games, but then again isn't PC gaming all about pushing the limits of the performances?

To me PC is more about utility, it can serve much more purposes than a console, and keyboard + mouse are preferable for me in nearly every game.

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