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Last of Us part 2 review. Well, this certainly is a divisive game. (first game's & partial spoilers inbound)

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Last of Us part 2, after many years of sparse trailers, after the unfortunate timing that is the Coronavirus, and after the leaks which cause all hell to break loose, it's finally here. And well, the director & writer Neil Druckmann himself already warned us in advance that this game's going to be divisive, and he kept his word. 

 

I can say this: before thinking of buying the game, youtube the first 2 hours of the game up until Ellie enters Seattle. If you don't like where it's going, definitely don't buy the game because it's going to make you angry, and there's another review up by Paz which reflects that, which are full of spoilers so watch out for that if you read this first. And possibly Joe's review which will be up later, and I understand completely if he's angry with it.

 

But if you like where it's going and are on board with it, then this is the game for you. I'm actually the later half that knows what I'm in for before I get this game, and I've played similarly messed up games like Nier & Nier Automata which are infinitely more depressing, so thankfully I completed the 30 hour long journey ending satisfied, but not without a few gripes of course. 

Last of Us 2 footage is out in the wild and we should see it soon

The game takes place around 5 years after the first game. Spoilers for the first game here:

 

You definitely will remember that in the first game's ending, Joel killed a bunch of Fireflies & saved Ellie from being killed because her brain's going to be dissected by the doctor in order to create a vaccine for the fungus virus, which may or may not even work so it's definitely a really messed up situation. Just by this event alone, I already know that what Joel did will come and bite him big time eventually, and this game's one of the answers to that. Personally I pretty much tried to choke everyone in the building & shoot the doctor guy in the leg which made him drop down like a ragdoll unlike what the game's recreation of the event showed but ah well.  

 

Anyway, it's 5 years later and Ellie + Joel are living their new life in Jackson Wyoming and well, things are actually pretty cozy in this place. And you get to meet a couple of the supporting casts: Joel's brother Tommy, Dina who's Ellie's girlfriend which picked up Ellie's hobby of making BAAAAD puns, mostly horse puns, and Jessie who is Dina's ex boyfriend. I don't know about you, but he totally likes Ellie too by the way he's checking her out. Hell, if Ellie swings both ways, this dude's a good match for her by how they're interacting throughout the game. XD

 

So the proper game begins as Ellie & Dina are doing their patrol runs around the town. There's a couple of things that actually happen in the intro which I will not mention, but like I said before, check out the first 2 hours on youtube for it & see if you're on board with it. But for a rough idea of what happened, here's the release date trailer. Here's a side note: a couple of the scenes here are different than what's in the proper game. Like, WAAYYYY different so watch out for that.

And so begins Ellie's quest for blood as she travel to Seattle, and this game's roughly around 30 + hours, filled with plenty of action, fungus zombies, brutally awesome kills & nice flashbacks here and there to mellow out the relentless pacing. Most of it are pretty sweet, and some are like "ok.... why is that there?" 

 

Now even though I'm one of the people who like the game's story for what they're going for, I'm going to mention the parts of this game that I don't like first:

I definitely think the event that leads to Ellie going to Seattle can be done a lot better. I expected it, but the way it's done makes one party look like a complete prick, even though there's a well-justified reason for it through their perspective because by the end of it all, both parties aren't completely bad people and are in the grey area instead of black and white. And that's what I'm gonna say about it without spoilers for that part.

 

One character in this game is named Lev. He's the 13 year old boy in this teaser trailer with the bow and arrow.

For some baffling reason, this character's a transgender, all because she cut her entire hair short and decided to change her name from Lily to Lev. And it's just completely unnecessary because only 2 very short dialogues that don't even last more than 1 minute mentioned it, and it doesn't have any impact on the story whatsoever other than it just being there because the game for some reason wants to have it. You could just get rid of that dialogue and nothing in the story would change.

 

The maximum bullets you get to store here are surprisingly fewer than in the first game. You can't get more than 8 for your shotgun, 9 for your rifle, 12 for your revolver & 16 for your standard handgun. I thought you had to upgrade your skill tree to get more max bullets but nope! This is it for the entire game. The weirdest thing is even when you increase the clip capacity for your weapons, the max bullets remain the same, which makes no sense.

 

In many parts of the story, the game tried to make the enemy you fight sympathetic. Like "oh no, that guy you killed turned out to be a pretty cool guy", or "oh no, that person's actually just an awkward kid in a bad situation" because you get to see a couple of their backstory later on in the game. But to be completely honest, I don't feel sorry about killing any of them in this game. You know why? Because they're being complete pricks to Ellie, even though Ellie time and time again gave them the chance to just give her the info that she needs and she'll let them go. Especially Nora, Mel & Owen who were supposed to just be normal people put in a bad situation, but when they interacted with Ellie they immediately tried to kill her. Like seriously, if you want to make them sympathetic, make them actually nice & not be complete dicks to Ellie. Simple as that & none of the problems that happen in this game would happen in the first place!

 

And this next part is for WAYYYY later in the game after around 20 hours in which I won't spoil but OH GOD, there's a sex scene there. And it is..... SO AWKWARD and dumb that it makes Ride to Hell & Heavy Rain's sex scenes look Oscar worthy. I can't believe it's actually possible, BUT IT IS.

 

Other than that, on with the good. The graphics are obviously one of the best looking game on PS4 so no arguing there. Though surprisingly if you compare this game's cutscenes to the first Last of Us, especially for scenes with young Joel & Ellie, not that much has changed, which speaks volumes about how awesome the first game's cutscene quality is & how well it just transitions to PS4. Not during the gameplay of course because this game obviously has a much better quality.

Despite how messed up & depressing the story gets, the best part of the game are the flashbacks before the event of the game. One of them taking place in a museum which is so cute & adorable it make my heart grew big sizes, and the other one which is pretty damn sad but necessary for Ellie. Hell, you can pretty much make Last of Us 2 about these flashbacks and continue from there instead of what we get, and the game would INFINITELY be less divisive than it is currently. 

 

The gameplay mechanics in this game is really solid & a major improvement compared to the first game. For starters, exploration in this game is WAAY more fun and big, and the game is like a mixture of the first Last of Us with that partial open world exploration segment that's in Uncharted 4 & Lost Legacy, though that exploration part is most prominent during the first time you are in Seattle. You get to explore parts of the city in this section of the game with your horse, and you get to use a map to search every nook and cranny this place has. The game's puzzles are not as awkward as those plank sections in the first game, which the game even takes a nod of during one cute section. Now the puzzles are more about putting ropes at the correct spots so you can swing to a hidden place filled with stashes, figuring out either to break a window or crawl a hole to open a locked door on the other side, jumping a lot kind of like Uncharted but less all over the place, and opening safe boxes with hints that makes you search around for clues, one of them involving putting a number that's a date for when a DOG gets employee of the month.......

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Maybe the dog's a very good mascot? ?_?

 

I don't get how a couple of reviewers say that the jump button is useless in this game. I don't know about them, but I jump all the damn time in this game to get to next areas, platforms, and hidden locations. Useless is when you don't even use the button, but you use it all the time in this game. Maybe they mean useless in combat? But who the hell would jump during a firefight in this game anyway? You're supposed to use cover & hide, not be Mario. Not even Drake from Uncharted jumps during combat unless it's one of those hanging on ledges sections.

 

One of my favorites collectible you get is when you explore a bank which turns out was robbed during the fungus outbreak, and you get to see this easter egg

Apparently Uncharted is just a game in this universe because there's Uncharted 1 & 2 in many of the PS3 consoles you can see scattered around the game, so why is Drake's ring there? I think it's just a prop from one of the Naughty Dog employees that just put it there. :P

 

SO many collectibles to see in this game. You get your usual journals that expand on the lore of the game and see many people's stories, like in one part you get to see the tragic story of a bowman who was betrayed by his friends that sided with an enemy faction that killed his daughter, so he gets to trap them in a garage to get infected, and then later on you have to kill his infected corpse & obtain his bow. A couple of them also involve characters who are probably still alive, and I wouldn't mind meeting them so they can share their survival stories with you. Unfortunately Ish from the first game's many old journals is not mentioned in the game, but maybe we'll finally see him later in a sequel, or dlc.

 

Second are these superhero cards that are all over the place.

The Last of Us 2: Every Super Hero Card (Locations & Uses)

There are so many of these things, and all of them have cool backstories. I would not be surprised at all if there's a future game of some sort that has these characters because I am down to try out their abilities. Especially the space whale & giant squid that are so big that it's pretty much like a Kaiju fight if they battle each other.

 

When I saw the trophies in this game, I was confused as to why I can't collect quarters yet. Don't worry, you get to collect them when the game reaches a certain point.

 

I've been looking forward to the game because of the combat mechanic I saw in the trailers, and man it doesn't disappoint. They made combat much more free-flowing & brutal here. The prone mechanic & bush hiding mechanic definitely makes this game a lot more like MGS, and I even nicknamed this game Last of Us 2 Phantom Pain: Venom Snake Ellie's vengeance. Which if you think about it, actually fits because both games share a common theme. You can crawl through trucks, tables, beds, anything with a hole on the bottom pretty much now, and that feeling you get when you shoot the face of an enemy that tries to search under them is OOOH, SO GOOD. 

 

Stealth is really fun since you have a lot more mobility and hiding spots, so you can get spotted & immediately run to go into hiding a lot quicker than in the first game. The enemies will have dogs that track your scents which makes it harder for stealth when these guys are around, but you can get through these guys pretty easily if you keep your distance, and you can simply headshot them. The other nice touch is how the enemies actually mentioned the names of their fallen friends after you stealth kill them. It makes you want to play a collection game to take note of the unique names for each enemy. You can be a stealth master in this game & it'll always be intense and fast-paced as seen here.

 

You can craft silencers using a water bottle attached to it, but only for your pistol. At first I thought "why can't you craft a silencer for your sniper rifle?" cause I've seen it used during that Mark Wahlberg obscure movie Shooter a while back

Until I found out that apparently it doesn't work in real life cause it'll just be ruined after a single shot.

Well.... glad the game does its research. :D

 

Hand to hand combat is also a lot better now because you can finally dodge enemy attacks, which does wonders compared to the first game's weird exclusion of it. Couple of times slugging enemies till they just bite the dust are so nice that it definitely reminded me of a battle from the Raid film. And for those that don't know that fantastic film, here's a taste of what you can expect here. 

Yep, Ellie uses that knife of hers a lot more this time. Wish she would use martial arts moves too but ah well, 1 out of 2 ain't bad.


Melee weapons are the same as usual, but you are able to fix a weapon once now. Some, like the plank of wood, actually get upgraded into a mostly one-hit-kill weapon after you do this, but resources are limited so it's best to do that when you're sure that there's no other melee weapon you can pick up first.

 

Speaking of upgrades, wow they ramp up the upgrade for your weapons & skills here. You get WAY better skill upgrades this time around other than more max health & steadier aim, two of them being a "last chance" ability that lets you shrug a lethal kill, and much faster stealth kill. Get these upgrades as soon as possible, it'll make things so much easier.

 

Weapon upgrades are also really nice. It's simpler now in that there's no tier upgrades & gear level to worry about. What you see is what you get. And the best part about these are the animations for before and after you put on the gun upgrades. They're so slick & nice.

Love the enemy types you face in this game. There's 4 groups of enemies: the Washington Liberation Front (WLF), the Seraphites, the infected fungus zombies, and the last one at the last parts of the game which I will not spoil, but it's a cool change of pace when you get to it. All of them use different weapons & tactics against you, and it's pretty cool to see how they contact each other during combat. The Seraphites use whistles to tell your locations & keep track of each other for example. Well except the fungus zombies cause they don't give a shit about tactics.

 

Speaking of the fungus zombies, your usual types are back. The normal infected, the stalkers that sneaks & attack you silently, the annoying clickers & the big bloaters who comes back with a vengeance with a lot more health than usual are here. But there's also a new enemy type the Shamblers which are faster bloaters, but with more acid in them. And one more which is pretty much a boss fight that's straight out of Evil Within or Resident Evil, and it's awesome to fight. Unfortunately these 2 are the only new enemy types in the zombie fungus collection, but it's a nice taste of things to come for the sequel of this game, which I really hope will put the fungus zombie apocalypse more to the forefront.

 

The music are a step up from the first game too. Ellie can play guitars in different places, and her actress Ashley Johnson's a DAMN good singer. It's unfortunate that you only get to hear 3 songs from her in the entire game even though she's supposed to write a lot of original songs. One's the song that Joel sang for her in the beginning of the game, second's a cover of Take on Me

............... I can't resist putting this in. 0P

No she doesn't sing that really high note, she lowers the note. Still, good song. 

 

Third one's a song in the very end credits of the game that's a duet. All of these songs are awesome, but where's this song from this trailer?

I'm so looking forward to hearing this song in the game!

Maybe they'll put this song in the dlc. 

 

Oh, this one's divisive for sure, but I actually like most of what the gameplay after the 20 hour mark is like after the aquarium section. Not all of them as I mentioned before with the Lev character & that HORRIBLE sex scene that happened during this part, but it's full of unrelenting set pieces that's like a mixture of the first Last of Us, Resident Evil & Red Dead Redemption 2 which I am pumped for. Hell, even the last battle was morbidly fun because I get to die over and over again which makes me imagine an alternate ending to this game where it ends right there and there, which I am pretty sure everyone did during that part. XD

 

Also while the ending of the game can be seen as depressing, I actually think it's more hopeful than what it looks like. I mean it's not completely the end because we don't see the whole picture of what happens with everyone in the story next after that part, and it's definitely open to the next chapter of the game where things get better for the people involved with time. Unlike Hotline Miami 2 which ends on such a downer note that there's not a chance in hell that anything positive can happen after that.

 

And there you have it. Despite all the stuff that happens in this game with the leaks & the things that happen during the game itself, I had a great time playing it that right now I'm doing new game + to fully complete my upgrade in the game & collect all the collectibles. My rating for this game is "even though you'll feel down after the whole thing, it's still a fun ride to the end that makes you want to see what happens next". It's definitely NOT a GOTY material or 10 out of 10 like those review websites said because of the many issues it has, though if you ignore the story & play the game for the gameplay only, you'll have a damn good time shooting enemies & stealth killing them in gloriously brutal ways.

 

I can definitely see this game getting a "don't ever want to touch this game ever again" or "burn in Hell for eternity" for those that are not going to enjoy this game, and that's perfectly fine. It's definitely a divisive game that definitely not everyone will enjoy, though calling this game like the "last season of Game of Thrones" is inaccurate because what happens in this game is pretty much just a logical possible route the story takes, not a completely out of left field garbage that last season was. For those guys, like I said, check the first 2 hours of the game on youtube first, and if that's not to your liking, then keep your money for other games.

 

I am curious though about the next step. Despite all the mess, there's a plan already to do part 3. There's still a few loose ends after the end of the game that have great potential to be explored in the sequel. Will there be dlcs that expands on what happens after the ending of this game that leads to the next part? Will there be dlcs that put more Ellie songs in the game maybe through a flashback section? I'm quite curious to find out.

 

Until then, stay safe during this corona season, play Doom Eternal for this year's GOTY contender at the moment if you want a GOTY game right now, wait for Ghost of Tsushima

& Cyberpunk 2077.................. WHY DOES THIS GAME GET DELAYED AGAIN??? DX DX DX DX

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You went pretty forgiving on it. But I respect your decision. And thank you for the mention.
Well this game's story surely made my blood boil, I can tell you that much. The first game had a rather simple premise but masterfully told, with masterfully developed characters to go along. Joel and Ellie are by far the most lovable duo gaming ever had to offer. And the way they were treated in this game... I don't think I need to say more. If people think the first 2 hours are bad enough... the game ain't gettin' any better, I can tell them that much. And if the 2 most important things that made The Last of Us 1 such a treasured game, aka the story and the characters, suck this much here, I really don't care 'bout everything else. It's like playing Hellblade for the gameplay or Dying Light for the story.(slowly becoming my favorite phrase) 
The only reason why my score didn't go any lower is because some of the flashbacks are well done and make a superior game all by themselves. There's also a really badass moment with Tommy hunting down the thing whose name shall not be mentioned where he almost becomes John Wick levels of awesome(I guess Druckmann wanted us to consider him the antagonist... but the exact opposite happened). Plot armor had to sadly kick in at the end or else the game would've had an actually good ending, but oh did I love 95% of this one sequence. The only golden nuggets in this whole poorly written drivel.

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18 hours ago, Paz said:

You went pretty forgiving on it. But I respect your decision. And thank you for the mention.

It's not really a "forgiving" thing, I just like this story direction since it's a personal taste thing. Different people like different things after all in the end. 

 

Actually you know what? This game made me remember Days Gone from last year. That game that's also a zombie apocalypse game but open world by the same people behind Syphon Filter & turns out the game is actually a whaf if sequel story to Syphon Filter, which is pretty cool. 

Despite how I like the gameplay of Last of Us 2 a lot more, and Days Gone was a much less refined game due to the rough edges here and there, I think I like that game better. Probably because that game is a much more straightforward zombie apocalypse story with surprisingly good pacing with clever twists that actually addresses what causes the zombie outbreak & has a much more exciting path towards setting up a sequel than this game. 

 

Get that game if you people haven't, it's much better than it was when it was out with less glitches & a story that's not as depressing. 

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Hi i also had mentioned this on twitter but am wondering if Ellie was the way she was due to brain damage. I kid but at the same time am not , she got hit so many times in the head is all i'm saying lol.

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On 6/24/2020 at 1:56 PM, Kaz32 said:

It's not really a "forgiving" thing, I just like this story direction since it's a personal taste thing. Different people like different things after all in the end. 

 

Actually you know what? This game made me remember Days Gone from last year. That game that's also a zombie apocalypse game but open world by the same people behind Syphon Filter & turns out the game is actually a whaf if sequel story to Syphon Filter, which is pretty cool. 

Despite how I like the gameplay of Last of Us 2 a lot more, and Days Gone was a much less refined game due to the rough edges here and there, I think I like that game better. Probably because that game is a much more straightforward zombie apocalypse story with surprisingly good pacing with clever twists that actually addresses what causes the zombie outbreak & has a much more exciting path towards setting up a sequel than this game. 

 

Get that game if you people haven't, it's much better than it was when it was out with less glitches & a story that's not as depressing. 

The problem with T.L.O.U 2 ain't that the story is just depressing. It's just poorly written in general. Everyone is written out of character. Joel is treated like garbage, Ellie ain't gettin' any better treatment either... and Druckmann really thought people would like... Abby. Who's written(and don't even get me started on her design) so poorly she's a despicable villain until the very end. And the game forces you to play as Abby... for 10 hours or more. And even then, instead of some genuinely good writing like T.L.O.U 1 had... we get cheap emotional manipulation. Just because her daddy was a nice guy doesn't mean we should instantly feel sympathetic for her... especially when she did what she did and just acts as if that was absolutely nothing. Add the fact that she has NO inner conflicts, no change of heart, absolutely NOTHING to make her at least a decent villain puts more salt on the wound. She's just a despicable, psychotic monster from beginning to end who tries really hard to sound and act badass and that's it. And again... she gets away with everything she did. Why bother writing a revenge story when the players can't even get their revenge ? Oh, is it because Druckmann dreamt that he was going to win an Oscar for his attempt to push some ham-fisted message about how violence is bad while butchering everything else in the process ? 
 

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Next time put a spoiler tag cause there's people that haven't played the game. Like so:

Spoiler

 

Eih, Abby's more of a saint than Joel. I mean in the first game Joel did many shady shit for 20+ years, torturing people & killing probably innocent people that's not shown in the game, and by the end of the game, he's already a villain by what he did so I expected him to bite the dust in this game. I don't think he's treated like shit at all. He's already accomplished what he wanted by being a good dad to Ellie, and he gets on to live for 4+ years with her. Unfortunately she had to find out the truth about what he did, but that's the consequence that he had to live with. He knew his time's coming to an end eventually, that's why his last words before he died is to get things over with. Though I would much prefer Abby & her gang to bring him to Seattle to get punished by law & having Ellie's motivation to go to Seattle to rescue him than what we got. 

 

The worst thing Abby did is the start of the intro because she killed Joel, which was handled HORRIBLY because he & Tommy just rescued her so there should definitely be more hesitation from her afterward, unfortunately killing Jesse, and being a part of that horrendous awkward as hell sex scene behind her friend's back. Other than that, she rescued Yara + Lev, not that bad of a person when she interracts with her friends, risked her life & even had to climb that high as hell building despite having fear of heights just to get the medical supplies to help Yara's hand surgery and coming to rescue Lev when Lev left to the Seraphites island even though she had every opportunity before to just leave Lev to die, left her WLF squad because she got sick of Isacc and by the end of the game she & Lev are like siblings. That's not a psychotic monster, Kratos in the PS2 - PS3 games is more of a cunt than she is.

 

Also she didn't get away at all, she lost all of her friends because of what she did, and by the end of the game she looks like complete shit for being tortured for 1 month, got stabbed & got beaten half to death by Ellie who let her live. And judging by the wounds she sustained, she's probably going to die soon after that battle, but at least before she die she'll make sure Lev gets to live on when they reach land. Though that of course depends on how Last of Us 3 will end up being. Or maybe when the story dlc will expand on what happened to her.

 

In this Last of Us world, you're just following people's lives in a place where there's no true good & evil. 2's just a natural progression of where the story goes after what Joel did in the end of the first game. If I want to play as Joel, I can just replay the PS4 remastered version again. I don't get pissed he died because he already has the first game to himself.

 

The biggest victim in the entire series is Sarah. I want her to live. Completely undeserving of dying because some asshole soldier just shoots her in the intro. That really pissed me off when it happened, pissed me off even more than when Joel died since such a good kind girl doesn't deserve it. If she's alive, her interaction with Ellie will be so sweet it's gonna make people's heart grow 10 sizes. I want to see that.

 

In the end this game is split down the middle. There's people that like it, and people who hate it, and that's how it is. But good thing that it's a matter of personal preference as the cause of why it's hated and not because the game plays like ass. Unlike Hello Neighbour that I played recently which is so UNBEARABLY AWFUL that by the end of that game I actually am glad that I beat it & will never play it again. And I got it for free from Epic Games Store. Very positive steam score? LIES I TELLS YA, LIESSSS!!! I rather play Ride to Hell & Past Cure, and I actually like those 2 games because they're so bad they're entertaining. Not so bad that it's horribly painful to play

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On 6/28/2020 at 9:29 AM, Kaz32 said:

Next time put a spoiler tag cause there's people that haven't played the game. Like so:

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Eih, Abby's more of a saint than Joel. I mean in the first game Joel did many shady shit for 20+ years, torturing people & killing probably innocent people that's not shown in the game, and by the end of the game, he's already a villain by what he did so I expected him to bite the dust in this game. I don't think he's treated like shit at all. He's already accomplished what he wanted by being a good dad to Ellie, and he gets on to live for 4+ years with her. Unfortunately she had to find out the truth about what he did, but that's the consequence that he had to live with. He knew his time's coming to an end eventually, that's why his last words before he died is to get things over with. Though I would much prefer Abby & her gang to bring him to Seattle to get punished by law & having Ellie's motivation to go to Seattle to rescue him than what we got. 

 

The worst thing Abby did is the start of the intro because she killed Joel, which was handled HORRIBLY because he & Tommy just rescued her so there should definitely be more hesitation from her afterward, unfortunately killing Jesse, and being a part of that horrendous awkward as hell sex scene behind her friend's back. Other than that, she rescued Yara + Lev, not that bad of a person when she interracts with her friends, risked her life & even had to climb that high as hell building despite having fear of heights just to get the medical supplies to help Yara's hand surgery and coming to rescue Lev when Lev left to the Seraphites island even though she had every opportunity before to just leave Lev to die, left her WLF squad because she got sick of Isacc and by the end of the game she & Lev are like siblings. That's not a psychotic monster, Kratos in the PS2 - PS3 games is more of a cunt than she is.

 

Also she didn't get away at all, she lost all of her friends because of what she did, and by the end of the game she looks like complete shit for being tortured for 1 month, got stabbed & got beaten half to death by Ellie who let her live. And judging by the wounds she sustained, she's probably going to die soon after that battle, but at least before she die she'll make sure Lev gets to live on when they reach land. Though that of course depends on how Last of Us 3 will end up being. Or maybe when the story dlc will expand on what happened to her.

 

In this Last of Us world, you're just following people's lives in a place where there's no true good & evil. 2's just a natural progression of where the story goes after what Joel did in the end of the first game. If I want to play as Joel, I can just replay the PS4 remastered version again. I don't get pissed he died because he already has the first game to himself.

 

The biggest victim in the entire series is Sarah. I want her to live. Completely undeserving of dying because some asshole soldier just shoots her in the intro. That really pissed me off when it happened, pissed me off even more than when Joel died since such a good kind girl doesn't deserve it. If she's alive, her interaction with Ellie will be so sweet it's gonna make people's heart grow 10 sizes. I want to see that.

 

In the end this game is split down the middle. There's people that like it, and people who hate it, and that's how it is. But good thing that it's a matter of personal preference as the cause of why it's hated and not because the game plays like ass. Unlike Hello Neighbour that I played recently which is so UNBEARABLY AWFUL that by the end of that game I actually am glad that I beat it & will never play it again. And I got it for free from Epic Games Store. Very positive steam score? LIES I TELLS YA, LIESSSS!!! I rather play Ride to Hell & Past Cure, and I actually like those 2 games because they're so bad they're entertaining. Not so bad that it's horribly painful to play

Oh well. As I said before, for me personally the gameplay doesn't matter when the story and the characters are this awful. 
Hadn't played Hello Neighbour. Will try it one day to see if it really is as awful as you say. Comparing it with Ride to  Hell sounds like a big yikes.
So far this summer I had a great time with Mad Max, Middle-Earth Shadow of War and Silent Hill 2. 

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On 30/06/2020 at 0:55 AM, Paz said:

Hadn't played Hello Neighbour. Will try it one day to see if it really is as awful as you say. Comparing it with Ride to  Hell sounds like a big yikes.
So far this summer I had a great time with Mad Max, Middle-Earth Shadow of War and Silent Hill 2. 

Those 3 are good choices. Shadow of War, that's an unfortunate game that got ruined by microtransactions. I love that game even if the end part was too much of a grind. 

 

No, do not play Hello Neighbour. Everything in that game is so fucking cryptic, that it's intentionally designed to make you go insane. I am dead serious when I say I rather play Ride to Hell all over again than play that crap again because Ride to Hell is intentionally made to be so bad that it's entertaining, NOT so bad it makes you question your sanity & want to throw your PC to the streets! This is a game that needs a guide to progress through the game because there is no way in horatio coppernickle bum bum's ass that you will get through the game in 1 sitting blind.

 

Also while I'm on it, do not play Shenmue 3. That & Hello Neighbour are in the same league as games that make you go insane, but Shenmue 3 was a much more colossal disappointment because it took everything annoying that should've stayed in Shenmue 1 & 2, make them even more annoying, got rid of the fun Sega games while having them be replaced by shallow minigames that's not fun at all & by the 20th hour of doing the same horse stance & wing chun punch just to level up your power bar because apparently Ryo forgot almost all that training he learned from the previous games, everything you did in the entire game is utterly pointless because it's all just a damn filler episode anyway that is going to continue in Shenmue 4. FUCK. THIS. GAME.

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Was never interested in Shenmue anyway. Dare I say I don't give 2 shits about the whole Shenmue series in general. Seen what it is about, and I'll just leave it to those fans to enjoy the games. I got better fish to fry. Cos after Shadow of War and Silent Hill 2, I'm tempted to enjoy this little Horror game I still have in my library called Kholat.

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32 minutes ago, Paz said:

I'm tempted to enjoy this little Horror game I still have in my library called Kholat.

Kholat is just a shameless exploitation of a real-life Dyatlov Pass Incident with complete nonsense thrown in + Sean Bean. The recent Blair Witch game is better than that game, and that game's not that good to begin with.

 

Want a horror game? Cry of Fear's the best bet. And that game's free.

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