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  1. Alright so recently every time I come across mentions of a "season pass" in comment sections it's always bad. I feel weird about this. I know that major AAA companys have turned this term from just a onetime payment on all season dlc to some evil thing. For example, I read something about Escape from Tarkov ( a Survival mmo that i'm looking forward to as of right now ) and it has a season pass. Now for me at least i'm not alarmed but it seems some people are already throwing up stuff like "ohh look EA 2.0" and i'm just like why? A season pass doesn't mean bad things to come. Honestly season pass depending on the person can be a good thing and a way to save money. Witcher 3 has a season pass, includes 2 paid expansion. Was great value when i picked it up since i goth both expansions for 20 dollars. Battle of Tarkov i'm sure will either include new areas (since it's a mmo), so that's good. Honestly seeing "season pass" is a good thing. What it can mean is that they're already planning on adding new content to the game once it's out. But sadly because of Activision with Destiny, people just assume it's a way to lock on disc content behind a pay wall. Or that the company is just greedy. Another bad example would be Battlefront and it's season pass which was just adding more maps splitting the playerbase. Call of duty does the same with using as a way for someone to get the map packs. And in general this is not consumer friendly since your essentially encouraging them to split up the community. Though on the other end of the spectrum you have Rainbow Six siege. Which has all free maps coming to it; the season pass only contains early access to operators and exclusive camo's for season pass users. The only thing i find wrong in that is just value proposition. So now to the subject why is "season pass" such a warning sign? before you just start shouting out hate, do a little research figure out what it includes and make your informed decision. Season pass doesn't have to be bad. In the case of the Witcher 3, and hopefully Escape from Tarkov a season pass can just be a easy way to get a discount on quality products. Essentially take the words "season pass" and think well are they locking on disc content behind a pay wall or are they actually just showing that they have interest to expand the game after release. Let me know what are your thoughts on the matter and maybe you can shed some more light on the apparent evil that is a season pass. -fox out - Edit / extension upon original thought while providing some different insights and possible ways to look at the subject. "I'm honestly very surprised and glad about the popularity of this post, and after reading everyone's response; i feel that i can relate to the different views over such an idea. Though I still have yet to see anyone really comment on the rest of my topic. What i'm talking about is the conclusion. That being the doing your own research. I still feel that we have yet to answer the core reason why i made this topic. That being the coherent hate that Season Pass gets in comments. Why would you shout your disdain. your mindless shouts of evil towards a notion in which you know nothing about. I understand being mad at destiny, battlefront, and any other game who's season pass is a joke and 100% not worth your time and money. In fact i'm still pissed about the destiny situation. The fact that activision has the audacity to rip a game apart and sell it for overpriced dlc. -shutters- \ but besides that. This post was to bring up the idea of not joining the hate train over a season pass and more so to sit back do your research then as an informed person make the decision to call the company out for the wrong it's doing to its consumers OR to praise them for their openness and respect for their continuation of content to a game you may love. For me this was true with the Witcher 3 and it's season pass. I did the research i saw what they were offering and I praised them for their open ended nature. As of now it was worth the extra 20 i spent on the game. I played the witcher 3 for another 20 hours cause of it. with the next expansion coming shortly i hope to return to the witcher 3 and add another 40 hours to my game time. Also you should think about WHO the season pass is for. As of COD and Battlefield it's for the people who are going to be playing that specific shooter for the rest of the year till the next game comes out. Now it's still horrible do to how consumer unfriendly it is to split the player base but still the season pass in those cases are meant for the people who want to spend the next 1000+ hours on their multiplayer game. And in that case honestly the season pass is more then worth it if you calculate how much you spent per hour of enjoyment you got out of the game. I sincerely think that if your going to spend mass amounts of time in a game then dlc is well worth it to you to put some more variety into the game. so as i just mentioned were going to run some calculations. now a season pass can go anywhere from 20-40 dollars. so lets calculate off the most recent bad example being battle fronts season pass and lets keep in mind that it's for the consumer that's going to be playing this game till the next battlefront or probably battlefield release. 50 dollars is the asking price of battlefronts season pass now lets take this and plug it into a formula. I personally use this as a way to justify to myself if it was worth the price i paid for the enjoyment i got. $/hours, simple i know but it's a good way to honestly see how much you paid and how much enjoyment you got out of it. with Battlefront lets say we take a look at a real fan of the new game and he has lets say 400 hours already logged into the game. If he's going to be playing this game for the next year we can safely assume that he would put in at least another 600 hours into the game so using 600 being the hours he spent playing the game with dlc added. 50/600 = .083. take that in now, so he spent 50 dollars and he's coming out to .08 cents is what hey paid for each hour of enjoyment. this is assuming the consumer loves the game and if they do, in most cases would also love new maps being added into the game (16 to be exact) now take it like this. use what i use as a formula it's not the best formula but it gets the point across. You also need to keep in mind who a season pass is for. For a lot of us we don't want them. Were not going to cit on Cod or Battlefield for the next year or two, so logically to us it's a bad deal. Because a lot of us play 100's of games. and if you're a pc gamer this is especially true. but for the person who doesnt play alot of different titles who loves this one game and every night when they get off work and have that little bit of spare time and they spend it on their favorite game. A season pass in a way is an easy, sometimes cheaper way to get the dlc without no hastle, and hopefully save a few bucks in the process. now i know this is not always true. I'm not trying to support the notion of the season pass. And I especially dislike season passes that include maps for a pvp game because it splits the community and in the long term will kill the game. but like i've said time and time again we should really think about a season pass, what it means, what it includes, who it's meant for. And what does that mean to the rest of the consumer base of said game. As some one said earlier that we've accepted that season passes are the norm. And honestly it's sad that is true. But there is a reason for it's creation there was a purpose and initially people really liked them otherwise they still wouldn't be here today. So what does that mean, it means they're not going away. I can promise you that, but we can help to make them better. make them more open. And you should remember that a season pass can be bought at any point in a games life cycle so honestly it's not a preorder. I bought battlefields 3 prem addition long after the last dlc had came out. and i guess this includes my thoughts on this. keep discussing if you want. I honestly think that we can go on for a while about this topic and what it means. I'm also going to include this comment into the original post since i really expanded upon the idea."
  2. The post launch support will suck, and here's why. And no, it's not this news that they're already announcing sequels, although that is a factor in that ideas for improvement may just be saved for the newer games instead of being patched in. It's about the season pass. To explain what I'm on about, we first have to look at another multiplayer only shooter published by EA, Titanfall. When the game first launched, allot of people were bummed buy it's lack of content for a full priced game (familiar story, eh?), but was heavily tweaked with better balancing, matchmaking, levelling, emblems and a multitude of new game modes in the months following the games launch. Werther one feels with all this game was still worth it the price comes down to the individual, but the most important thing is this was added at no additional cost completely separate from the games DLC packs and season pass. The season pass also was eventually offered for free with DLC maps put into general circulation, but that was after quite a while from launch and I'm not gonna count them for this, it's still worth noting that happened though. Now on to the season pass. Each of the three DLC packs offer new cosmetics, but more importantly three new maps for $10 each or $25 for the season pass. So if I'm getting my maths and assumptions correct that's not far of the same amount of content currently advertised as being a part of the Battlefront's season pass for about half the cost. So, already Battlefront's DLC looks bullshit by comparison, but I fear it's going to get worse. Here is what was put into the game for free outside of the bug fixes and balancing ect. Marked for Death Game Mode Marked for Death Pro Game Mode Pilot Skirmish Game Mode Frontier Defence Game Mode Private Matches (TBH, should have been there from the start, so you could call that a patch) New Insignias New Unlockable OS Voices Deadly Ground Game Mode Stipulation DLC Maps Added to Circulation Now on to the point Given that Battlefront's season pass doesn't offer much more (IMO) that Titanfall's did, what do think the odds are that Battlefront will have this much added to the game for free? Not a chance. EA and DICE simply can't afford to not lock this stuff behind the season pass to help justify it's cost. I'm not saying DICE aren't gonna improve the game, but it'll be the kind of patching and general improvements that are necessary and always, nothing extra. Being a seasonal EA game, DICE will inevitably be kept busy with these bug fixes and balancing. Titanfall was developed by Respawn who weren't exactly very busy in year post Titanfall except for post launch support on that game, not like DICE who'll be working on at least one other Battlefront and probably a new Battlefield over the next few years. DICE won't have the time nor the budget to develop the equivalent of what we got for free in Titanfall and the amount of DLC to justify that kind of cost of that season pass planned for Battlefront separately, there's just no way. This coupled with new Battlefronts already announced means the post launch support of Battlefront is going to suck. That is my prediction. That's something EA were actually doing pretty the last year or two. What a shame.