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I don't know if this is the story that Joe said about the post on reddit but MAN ALL OF YOU MUST READ THIS. Looks like the Destiny we got is a really BIG BULLSHIT and TONS of things were cut off in Destiny over the last year of development. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=132190481&postcount=519 Read it. Comment your thought
Please read This before continuing. About 1 year and 7 months ago, I was part of a Starcraft 2 team called "Alloy Esports", which was at the time an "Aspiring Esports team aiming for the top" . I was part of the management, and my job was to organize team matches, make sure that everyone attended practice and organized the line-ups for SC2ITL (A starcraft 2 team league with cash prizes. A team of 4 will play a Bo7 games. The winner will advance and the loser gets eliminated. So it's a series of 1v1 matches where 1 player can kill the whole enemy team if he's good enough and I was there to make sure that wouldn't happen.). The level of play was quite low in Alloy and it more reminded me of a casual team, more then anything else. We had a few GM's (Highest league players, similar to challenger in LoL.), but most of them were masters players (The difference between GM and Master is far bigger then Challenger-Diamond 1.. It's more similar to Platinum 1~.) So the team had ways to go, it wasn't too bad managing it, but there were a lot of problems with Stephen Moore (The leader.) not paying the wages he promised. And to make things worse he had a silly story about his "dead grandfather who gave him a large company, but the management didn't want to let him get his hands on it". A silly story, but the players had nothing else to do anyway and we didn't have any proof that he DIDN'T have an income, while we had a list of things that he didn't do, which he should've done if he had any money (Is late with his promised wages, which at the time was at the level of "15$ to the best player in the team", and said how once he gets his hands on the money from the company it will be all up from there..). I ofc knew that he didn't have money and that it was a whole lot of BS (But later on he did change his excuses and explanations so he did smarten up with that shit at the very least.). And then came a time when it was obvious to me that he won't be able to afford anything that he had planned, and then I and 1 of my fellow managers got up into his face and asked the final question "Do you, or do you not have the money, cause if you don't then this is the time to jump the boat and turn this into a casual gaming team". He said "Everything's fine". Then we asked for his business plan on how he plans to make this into a profitable organization (At the very least if he had a good plan I would atleast run along with him a bit longer.". After a retarded "business plan", which was "Hire a top level player for free and get him to earn money, he'll win tournaments ....." . You might wonder what that "...." at the end was. It basically was Stephens "Idea" that all the winnings go to the player saying "it belongs to them". From which came a question "How do you plan on earning money then"? (For clarification. Most teams that support pro gamers take a large amount of money from the winnings, but for that they provide for the player, take care of the housing, food, travel costs and it's generally far safer to get a small sure-fire split from the winnings, earn salary, and not pay for any of the needs that teams usually provide for the players. Teams usually have sponsors to take care of the HUGE costs and even teams like Axiom who're doing really well, are in the red.) . That was basically a sign for me to jump ship. Which I'm now regretting cause if I had stayed it would've been annoying for me, but I could've prevented shit like this. After I left the team I found out that Stephen had been recruiting far higher level players and had promises of a fantasy world that he himself lives in. I was surprised that he managed to aquire them, but thankfully it was a short-lived "alloy experience" as most of the better players did leave soon after. Though this Austrian did go through some serious shit. Felt the need to talk about this topic as it's a very real thing and it's a thing to look out for.