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What do you think about steam selling old games?

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What do you think about steam selling old games and putting them in the new releases section?

I really think they should have an option for separating the old games from the new ones. It is over-saturating the steam front page, new releases are being drowned in old ones. It has gotten so bad that TB has started a new series about old games steam sells! This is not about QA testing on games for steam, but rather about old games drowning out the new ones. What do you think?

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I think they need to refine it. I've lost interest in using Steam. Maybe if they mature a bit and refine how it looks and how games are shown. Perhaps make it easier to filter it, I'll return to it being my preferred platform.

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I actually don't really care. It's their service and if they want to put classics in there to attract some old timers, I'm not going to bother complaining unless they prioritize classics over new games. There is much bigger problems in the world to worry about.

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I don't mind Steam selling old games. In a way, though, I prefer GOG.com over Steam when it comes to old games, since GOG.com has them DRM-free.

 

I do like GOG.com for older games more than Steam.

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It may benefit them to have a classics section.

 

Putting old games in the new release section will confuse some folk. 

 

Especially relatively new gamers that wonder why they just bought a new release that looks like it was from 1995 .... because it is from 1995.

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I rarely buy games anyways, so I don't really care. When I do buy something, it's usually on a sale.

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Selling old games is great, tons of games that I like are old but they shouldn't be advertised as new releases. They need a separate section for them so it doesn't confuse people, basically what Gomly said.

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It might, it MIGHT be a good thing but steam is releasing an astounishing amount of broken games and i don't trust them to optimize old games to run on recent machines, take for example Beyond Good and Evil, the Steam version needs a shitload of tweaking while the Gog one needs no shit, download and play.

If they starts a team to tweak these games before releasing them (and it's unlikely seeing how they don't have quality control yet) and don't release blindly any crappy old game (because there were atrocious ones) it could work, otherwise i'll stay with GOG.

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I don't mind Steam selling old games. In a way, though, I prefer GOG.com over Steam when it comes to old games, since GOG.com has them DRM-free.

GOG is great. I couldn't love their anti-DRM policy more. Whenever I see a game on both Steam and GOG, there's no competition for me; GOG wins every time.

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It would be good if we stop seeing all this bloody shovelware! :angry:

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I think they should do what Netflix does and do "Recently Added" and "New Releases".

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I think they should do what Netflix does and do "Recently Added" and "New Releases".

Good idea, let's go with that. Also, every time I see the gif in your sig I have to laugh. Thanks.

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I'm pretty sure this thread happened before for starters...

And I'm pretty sure I'll pretty much say what I said in aforementioned beforeness: It's awesome, I'd include the entire gog catalog on Steam if I could. Once in a while when a classic gets re-released on Steam I think it's pretty cool. System Shock, Descent, Wasteland(though to be perfectly honest Wasteland is a bit on the unplayable side nowadays.), Fallout and what-not. 

I wouldn't be against a better organized filter but I don't really mind.

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Unless steam sells them at a lower price than GOG I see no reason to buy from them. GOG has quality control, customer support, and no DRM. Steam just dumps garbage out there and let people sort it out.

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I think they need to have a retro genre for sure because a new release simply means that the game is a new release on steam itself. Luckily the service also shows the original publishing date so I can't complain.

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This reminds me, I have to learn about steam. I have always been apprehensive of a service like that but...they are releasing linux ports that seem to be hard to find anywhere and using ubuntu for anything of any importance (aside from gaming so far) I really like the idea of a place that is beginnng to pool and provide linux games...ok that said I am off to search for steam for dummies and hope they don't make you download a program like EA's crappy thing...

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It's fantastic to be honest, could do with more. 

Though I'd agree on it being split into a section of classics or something.

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I like that they sell old games as a nostolgic craving or if you never got a chance to play it before cause of certain circumstances. I do agree though they should have them in their own section to make it less confusing and more efficient

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I think it's fine putting them into the new release section as it is a new release on Steam, allows people interested to see that it is available, and it may be the first time or the only place where the game is available to buy digitally. What they need to do though is to stop listing a games release date on the game page as the day it was released on Steam, no one cares when the game first came out on Steam we want to know when the game actually was released.

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TB had the position that old games being released on steam took away face time from new releases and thus should be seperated entirely. I disagree entirely.

 

A game is a game. The age it was originally released has no correspondence to its value as entertainment and all games when released on steam for the first time should get a fair shot.

TB's problem in reality is not that these games are old, it is that they are terrible and being released en-masse by developers. With one video TB will declare his love for something like Shadow Warrior Classic Redux and how everyone should play it, something I would never consider a 'new release', then in another bitch about how some terrible old games have pushed the remake of Thief off the new release section.

Some people suggest Valve should do QA or rate the games they sell. I also deeply appose this as I would never expect a local gamestore to first test what they sell and I sure don't trust them to decide what I would find either good or playable. Hell plenty of them have sold buggy or just plain crap games. This process would usually involve lying to the store clerk and if they refused a refund complaining through the correct channels. Enough people complain maybe there is a recall of some kind. Steam avoid against refunds pretty much on principle because of the clear abuse it is open too. hell I agree with it 100%. Comes down to it consumers have much more responsibility to review the entertainment they are purchasing.

There doesn't seem to be a particularly fair way to 'solve' it in my opinion. On the plus side once a developer has released a back catalog it can't do it twice.

 

I'd recommend public ratings from users but anyone can see from sites like meta critic they too are wide open to abuse with people voting arbitrarily in an almost political manner.

 

I would have thought a compromise would be incentives for writing reviews and you can only give one if the game is in your steam library with at least 4 hours played.

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A separate section would probably be ideal.

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